Muskie Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I can see buying this, but not until I see new rules for 40K and Chaos. I have two other forgeworld models to paint and at least one rhino plus a few more foot troops. Once the new rules are out I'll see what kinda 1500 point army I want to run in the short term and whether I'll put a lot more work into my CSM army. I too welcome the evil robots build but to top the orks or equal the orks you need Dreadnoughts as troops. ;-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3014338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 My only hope is that no jetbike to land speeder sized fast attack option with some kind of either plasma or melta capability is not released, Uh... yeah. Me too... Does this reverse psychology stuff actually work? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3014383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidoneus Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 It really is gorgeous. I think the rules are well-balanced, at least on paper. Mostly, I'm just psyched that Chaos is getting a decent gun platform in elites, since our normal dreads are so hideously unreliable. I've been having evil thoughts all afternoon of lists with these. My current thought is an all-nurgle list with winged prince, greater daemon, 3x decimators with siege claws and butcher cannons, 3x defilers with extra DCCWs, and 3x squads of plague marines in rhinos. It all fits in 2000pts, and a good conversion job would make the army just look fantastic! P.S. Or, alternatively... shameless plug Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3014408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Must fight Iron Warriors Chaoszilla list that uses these things... Gurrk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3014425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Soulless animated hunk of metal? I'm pretty sure that could fit in a KSons list. *hint hint, wink wink Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3014437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I love everything but the arms. I had much higher hopes on the Butcher cannon that is here a copy from the Hell Blade reaper autocannons rather than inspired by the descriptions of the relic weapons in the IA Apoc 2. The CC arms look a bit weak as well. But it looks great as a foundation for conversions! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3014486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Soulless animated hunk of metal? I'm pretty sure that could fit in a KSons list. *hint hint, wink wink No that is just the rubrics.. the never changing pawns of the lord of change... All the cool stuff is about floating weird stuff that makes you poop out of your mouth... and I mean real poop... Don't ask questions... It is Tzeentch related... Just go with it! I'm sure my Generic chaos army can find room somewhere... but I want to fight it :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3014487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I like the rules quite a lot, very flavorful while remaining nasty- (except init 3- what the warp?!) however the actual model leaves me cold. I think a chaosified dreadknight with spare defiler bits might be in order. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3014513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 big hth walker . no actual shoting . no pods , better then a dread but that is all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3014517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 however the actual model leaves me cold. I think a chaosified dreadknight with spare defiler bits might be in order. Hell no. No baby carrying, anime styled lump of crap will sully my army...no sir. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3014529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashmalum Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 If anything this looks like a small, gunless Warlord Titan; no idea why anyone would think it's a Warjack copy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3014606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 My only hope is that no jetbike to land speeder sized fast attack option with some kind of either plasma or melta capability is not released, Uh... yeah. Me too... Does this reverse psychology stuff actually work? I have no idea! :) but still, this direction can only be good! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3014612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDoom Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I love the model and am thrilled about the possibility of new Daemon Engines. I hope this points to good things for the new codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3014926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (whythre @ Mar 12 2012, 10:06 PM) *however the actual model leaves me cold. I think a chaosified dreadknight with spare defiler bits might be in order. Hell no. No baby carrying, anime styled lump of crap will sully my army...no sir. Haha, I agree that the wardknight looks dumb, Heathens, but I think it might be the lesser of two evils here- warjack vs anime mech? I think it'd be easier to fix the mech. I already have a pile of old defiler bits to boot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3015035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 If anything this looks like a small, gunless Warlord Titan; no idea why anyone would think it's a Warjack copy. Exactly. The "warjack" accusation is sorta nonsense. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/8/8a/WarpRunner_Warlord1.jpg http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/e/e8/FireWasp.jpg http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/7/70/WarlordBattleTitan.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3015041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Those are some nice Warjacks, ADB. Also, i can't wait to see a few of these models gussied up with some legion specific paintjobs by the B&C community. Its like an evil christmas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3015059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I think its great! The fact it doesnt have the stupid rage rule and is therefore usable for a Khorne player is even better! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3015080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat33.1 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Hmm. The sudden appearance of this kit makes me wonder... As far as I'm aware, Imperial Armour 11 - The Doom of Mymeara doesn't have any Chaos units in it (anybody correct me if I'm wrong here, feel free). So does the sudden release of this mean that there is the possibility of a new IA book on the horizon with new Chaos stuff in it to co-inside with Chaos Legions? Certainly some food for thought. IA11 is Eldar, Eldar Corsairs, IG Cadians and Elysian Drop troops, a few Titans plus Bran Redmaws Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3015143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miteyheroes Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 It's a Chaos Knight Titan. It's beautiful. I must have one. Or many... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3015153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 QUOTE (whythre @ Mar 12 2012, 10:06 PM) *however the actual model leaves me cold. I think a chaosified dreadknight with spare defiler bits might be in order. Hell no. No baby carrying, anime styled lump of crap will sully my army...no sir. Haha, I agree that the wardknight looks dumb, Heathens, but I think it might be the lesser of two evils here- warjack vs anime mech? I think it'd be easier to fix the mech. I already have a pile of old defiler bits to boot. Guess we'll have too agree to disagree there, man. I don't see the Warjack comparison myself, and I think the Decimator looks gnarly as hell; but hey, to each their own. B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3015159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 It actually kinda reminds me of your MM's Dread, heathens. The way the shoulders are anyway. The models a pretty nice take on the old metal chaos dread in that way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3015175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDeath Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Good looking model but quite useless outside the rather expensive nurgle butcherman configuration. The huge size means that it will probably never be able to claim coversaves so it has to rely on unholy vigour to stay alive. WS3, BS3, I3 as well as AV12/11 and lack of fleet mean that it isn't realy good in cc which is a pity imo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3016133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I talked about this in the other thread, but I'm thinking that the Decimator should rove the midfield with x2 Storm Lasers hosing down MEQ infantry. MoN to get back up easier, or MoT to make more shooting count. With x2 Storm Lasers (and I spent a few hours rolling hypotheticals while browsing the internet) should usually score 3-5 hits, with 1-3 wounds. Str 6, but AP3, yo, so no armor saves for regular PA. The ability to ignore shaken/stunned and a 5+ save for immobilized or weapon destroyed, along with the chance to get back up, and it should be able to spend a couple or three rounds shooting. For its cost I don't think that's bad at all. Say the enemy gets paranoid about the constant stream of Storm Lasers to the face and concentrates fire on it, that's free movement for your tooled up Defilers to Fleet into HTH, or splitting fire between the big, scary Decimator and your Oblit squads. How does that sound? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3016228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 @1000heathens - I notice form your avatar that it now says you are from Anchorage and not Afghanistan. Can we take it you have finished your Tour then? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3016229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanct Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 confused design - better at assault but side AV11 makes moving to assault risky. Turning it shooty makes it as costly as the mortis contemptor with CML/dual kheres but less damaging. (dp/unholy vigor/12/11/11 vs atom shield/13/12/11 is shakey as well) I would have been happier if it had started 12/12/11 with claws and changed to 13/11/11 with shooty (no attacks lost and some sort of cumulative bonus for 2 claws) Sticking it in a list with Winged nurgle princes and blight drones looks cools as all hell warp Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/page/2/#findComment-3016265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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