My Custom Space Wolves Chapter's Origins

[Airain]

Hey all, I'm new here and this is my first post. I've been building myself a custom Space Wolf chapter and after a while I decided I'd like to give them some form of history but was at a loss as to how it could work due to the fact there are supposed to be no known successor chapters. I decided to take the easy route and went for the alternate universe spin. Yes I am aware how over done it is forgive me LoL.

 

Long story short my chapter are what remains of the Space Wolves from another universe where Horus succeeded in his attempt to overthrow the Emperor. They fought with the remains of other Loyalists but were unsuccessful and almost wiped out as all the other legions had been. In their universe before the death of their Leman Russ he sent the remnants of his legion on an unknown journey through the warp. I view the make up of my current chapter as a great band of Lone Wolves and for a time I had them named as such. So after a great many perils in the warp they emerged in what they soon discovered was the 41st millennium and further still an alternate universe where Horus had failed and the Imperium lived on. Our 40k universe.

 

I haven't thought of a lot of details after that but I had something in mind about them secretly revealing themselves to our Space Wolves's Logan Grimnar and Bjorn because I have Bjorn in my army but not as a dreadnaught and I thought to use that as a way to form proof of their story and have Logan Grimnar help them to join the Imperium's ranks. In recognition of the fact they are not our 40k universe's Space Wolves I named them Ghost Wolves. Also as a way to hide the fact that Bjorn and many other historic Space Wolf heroes from the 31st millennium are among the ranks of the Ghost Wolves they always wear helmets and never take them off among outsiders.

 

Well that is it I haven't really smoothed out details and lore errors but please feel free to help me make it more cohesive. Cheers.

[Brother Seraphion]

Welcome to Fang :D

 

Its a decent start, you probably should rework their first meeting with the normal Space Wolves however because Logan would be suspicious of anyone just turning up and claiming to be from a alternate universe, as well as the fact that current Bjorn isn't just hanging out in the Fang he slumbers until he is needed. I would also personally keep them as a covert group of he current Space Wolves, as in general the Space Wolves and Logan in particular doesn't trust many elements in the Imperium such as the administratum and the Ecclisiarchy and as such I don't believe he would see it as a priority to inform the Imperial echelons of just what the Wolves are doing and would likely try and keep your Ghost Wolves secret as a trump card of sorts.

 

Out of curiosity how many marines were you thinking of being in your chapter/legion remmenant?

[Airain]

Yeah those are really good points, I like the covert idea. Like I said I need to do a bit more research and any input helps.

 

To answer your question about numbers I was thinking around 300 and a few vehicles but not much. I don't imagine them having anymore than one spaceship.

 

I was also thinking I might have them meet the current Wolves in battle against some chaos as their first interaction. I have a large chaos army too so that's my only reason.

[Brother Seraphion]

The meeting in battle could be a excellent means for the two chapter/legion (whatever) to form a closer bond and to give a certain level of trust with each other in the first place, would make the future Space Wolves far more willing to accept time travelling Space Wolves. If your going to have 300, which if anything is probably too small considering at legion strength they numbered between 60k to 70k depending on opinions, and it would make sense if they got sent off by Leman Russ as a full chapter of 1000 however you could explain the reduced number as a result of fighting in the heresy and the warp ext. As well as your vehicles, considering how important they are to the Imperium its unlikely that a chapter/legion would just leave them behind as wreckage on a battlefield, so it might do to have a reasonably full armory, if you ant them o be seen as war weary/depleted you could easily just put their armory at between 30-60% of full chapter strength. It would also be a good idea for your legion remmenant to meet the Wolves either in the Fenris system or quite close by and not in any other major imperial or Marine system as this would help the fluff of keeping them covert and under the radar as it would be much easier for the current Space Wolves to move them around discreetly if they arnt far from the Wolf Homeworld

[Max_Dammit]

I dont see them having much of vehicles if they where indeed hard pressed in there own universe, the probably lost the fang and every battle they fought so had to leave behind vehicles at every battle to just get away.

[Airain]

Yeah I was wondering about what population would be appropriate, I just wanted to represent the fact that they were supposed to be the last scattered remnants of the Space Wolves so I didn't want to make them too strong numbers wise when they show up in the canon 40k verse.

 

As for vehicles I agree I didn't want many and I figured that if they left in a hurry to the warp in whatever ship they could find that was intact, so I imagine that they only have whatever vehicles were on-board at the time. In my current army I have a small unit of bikes and a single rhino transport.

 

I haven't said yet but I have them painted with black wash then dry brushed entirely white to make an ashy/white color.

 

Thanks for the input so far, it helps.

[Airain]

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads...060_2542431.jpg

 

Hope this works, been having a hell of a time trying to get my images working.

[Airain]

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads...7060_162181.jpg

 

Here's another, I'll add more but I gotta find my camera. These are all shots of my originals I made a while back, only a few of these have Space Wolf markings, I'll try and get my images up of my more Wolfish guys plus marines in Maximus armor.

[Arez]

You could have more vehicles since Grimnar would've likely gave them some

[Russ Brother 92]

I really like the idea - as for vehicles I'm someway between Max_Dammit and Greenhorn's views - whilst they may have been given some by Grimnar, I think that it would be mostly rhinos, razorbacks and the occassional heavy variant (LRs, Vindis & Preds) whereas I still think they'd be heavily lacking in Landspeeders, Bikes and Jump Packs, have very few if any TWs (as in their universe Fenris was under chaos or destroyed they wouldn't be able to take any and I doubt they'd have much time to tame some from 40k Fenris), I suggest that you have a solid core of purely GHs (the whelps/BCs would be GHs by now) and many LFs and WG promoting the 'lost chapter/veteran warrior force' theme that I get from your fluff.

[Airain]

Currently the makeup of my chapter is pretty much GH, LF and WG. I don't currently have any BC in my custom wolves chapter. I have another squad of bike to build, dunno if I'll make them Ghost Wolves or regular SW yet but I have a forge world dreadnought and some different crusade and heresy gear I might make into Ghost Wolves units. I'm also looking for ways to add some of the newly released units into my chapter as well. I'm still trying to find a purpose for them in the 41st millennium other than being back up for the SW. They need a quest to undertake. Any ideas?

[Brother Seraphion]

An interesting if somewhat overdone quest could them simply fighting to regain the lost honor of their own legion, with they priority target being whichever legion decimated them. However if you were looking at something more original or different a few ideas could be

- Trying to get back to their own universe at a early time to try and change the course of the heresy

- Attempting to retrieve a powerful relic they lost in the warp

- A purely great hunt orientated role in which they serve as the Space Wolves official search party for Leman Russ

- Or you could always just make them subservient to Grimmnar, and form a returned 13th Great Company

[Khine]

This is just a suggestion for the paint scheme of your army.

Although the scheme does look interesting, it seem a tad bland at the moment. If you wanted to continue with the whole ghost wolf theme, might i suggest doing something like the below images with a very very diluted wash?

But not quite so strong on the colour, just used more as a subtle hint. Maybe a blue or purple to go with the eyes?

 

http://www.mindgamesmelbourne.com/images/armyOfTheDead.jpg

 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xyeV1jpn34s/S9_PfGbxpWI/AAAAAAAAAgk/PSq_03VYdX8/s1600/haradrim%20spirits.JPG

 

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TLR9JNny4xA/TwjJ95fis1I/AAAAAAAACck/Vka-8sV5qW4/s1600/Picture%202.png

 

^The colour bottem flames near the base is what i mean.

[Airain]

I named them Ghost Wolves to reflect that they are a ghost of their former legion not actual ghosts. I wasn't looking to make them ghost like in look either but was going more for a dirty white, like ashy snow. But yeah I'm not huge on color, hehe I guess I'm kinda dull, Gray is my favorite color.

[Khine]

I named them Ghost Wolves to reflect that they are a ghost of their former legion not actual ghosts. I wasn't looking to make them ghost like in look either but was going more for a dirty white, like ashy snow. But yeah I'm not huge on color, hehe I guess I'm kinda dull, Gray is my favorite color.

 

My bad then brother, sorry if i sounded insulting.

[Wulfebane]

I named them Ghost Wolves to reflect that they are a ghost of their former legion not actual ghosts. I wasn't looking to make them ghost like in look either but was going more for a dirty white, like ashy snow. But yeah I'm not huge on color, hehe I guess I'm kinda dull, Gray is my favorite color.

 

My bad then brother, sorry if i sounded insulting.

 

Even so, if you're wanting a dirty white and you like grey, I wouldn't drybrush them in white.. most especially as heavily as you have. Lightest I'd go would be fortress grey... maaaaaybe elf grey. I'd also drybrush it in layers of successively lighter tones from adeptus battlegrey and up to give it some depth. If you want to stay away from color but still get a hint of hue in there, you could prime it with shadow grey or charonite granite for a cool or warm tone, then drybrush it with neutral greys.

[Airain]

I named them Ghost Wolves to reflect that they are a ghost of their former legion not actual ghosts. I wasn't looking to make them ghost like in look either but was going more for a dirty white, like ashy snow. But yeah I'm not huge on color, hehe I guess I'm kinda dull, Gray is my favorite color.

 

My bad then brother, sorry if i sounded insulting.

 

No worries dude, I wasn't insulted haha, just trying to clarify.

[Airain]

I named them Ghost Wolves to reflect that they are a ghost of their former legion not actual ghosts. I wasn't looking to make them ghost like in look either but was going more for a dirty white, like ashy snow. But yeah I'm not huge on color, hehe I guess I'm kinda dull, Gray is my favorite color.

 

My bad then brother, sorry if i sounded insulting.

 

Even so, if you're wanting a dirty white and you like grey, I wouldn't drybrush them in white.. most especially as heavily as you have. Lightest I'd go would be fortress grey... maaaaaybe elf grey. I'd also drybrush it in layers of successively lighter tones from adeptus battlegrey and up to give it some depth. If you want to stay away from color but still get a hint of hue in there, you could prime it with shadow grey or charonite granite for a cool or warm tone, then drybrush it with neutral greys.

 

Yeah I should have been clearer sorry. I did intend them to be really white like that, I wanted an army that almost felt invisible in snow, I just wanted them to look like they were white but dirty. Sorry my comment about me liking grey was off topic. I didn't want them grey LoL. I used the heavy dry brushing because i liked the rough grainy look it gave.

[Matt D]

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads...7060_162181.jpg

 

Here's another, I'll add more but I gotta find my camera. These are all shots of my originals I made a while back, only a few of these have Space Wolf markings, I'll try and get my images up of my more Wolfish guys plus marines in Maximus armor.

did you put bones on his shoulder pad? i like where these guys are going. i do think they need more depth though. you may want to do multiple washes in the crevasses to give more definition. do you plan on putting much color on areas like the aquilla? to stick with the theme you may want to do those in, say, an ice blue to stick with the snow theme. only other thing i can think of at the moment is that it is a little hard to tell he is on a snow base with the bottom rim white like that. maybe a blue would make it stand out more and feel like a cut-section of permafrost. hope this helps.

[Airain]

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads...7060_162181.jpg

 

Here's another, I'll add more but I gotta find my camera. These are all shots of my originals I made a while back, only a few of these have Space Wolf markings, I'll try and get my images up of my more Wolfish guys plus marines in Maximus armor.

did you put bones on his shoulder pad? i like where these guys are going. i do think they need more depth though. you may want to do multiple washes in the crevasses to give more definition. do you plan on putting much color on areas like the aquilla? to stick with the theme you may want to do those in, say, an ice blue to stick with the snow theme. only other thing i can think of at the moment is that it is a little hard to tell he is on a snow base with the bottom rim white like that. maybe a blue would make it stand out more and feel like a cut-section of permafrost. hope this helps.

 

Well I am going to leave most things just white but I am looking into where I can add some icy blue. I'm trying to go for an almost solid white look with little embellishments but I can see the need for something more to catch the eye. AS for you question on the bones on his shoulder it's actually an extra pad I had laying around from some of the older versions of the Legion of the damned. I started that guy when I didn't have any extra SW bits to play with. Thanks for the tips and input it def helps.

[Wulfebane]

For painting white (or any single color), there needs to be something to break up the solid mass of paint. These White Scars make use of silver metal and red trim, as well as a grey lining in the crevasses.

 

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1230196a_99110101458_SMWhiteScarsBikeSquad_873x627.jpg

 

After drybrushing, I would definitely go back in and clean up some edges for better definition, especially where the joints are exposed. You might even paint them a cool-toned grey (shadow grey would be my pick) and then hit it with asuremen blue or badab black to get some more wintry tones into the model without breaking from the super white theme.

[Matt D]

and then hit it with asuremen blue or badab black to get some more wintry tones into the model without breaking from the super white theme.

i cant believe i did not think of asuremen blue! if you washed with that it would look like ice was forming. that would look cool. (no pun intended)

[Airain]

and then hit it with asuremen blue or badab black to get some more wintry tones into the model without breaking from the super white theme.

i cant believe i did not think of asuremen blue! if you washed with that it would look like ice was forming. that would look cool. (no pun intended)

 

I'll give this a try, sounds intriguing. It's a common comment on my custom units that I don't have enough variety of color. I dunno I like simple, it's odd I guess. My custom chaos legion worships Malice but instead of black and white they are red and black, but really they are 90% black with a few red highlights like only one red eye and a red shoulder pad made to look like blood. I like the asureman blue idea, it's a nice blue, I'll definitely try it.

[Airain]

Oh I also a while back made two units of barbarians using a mix of regular Warhammer bitz and some SW heads to make a group of Fenrisian barbarians. They don't have a purpose I just had a itch to make 'em, I guess they are the last refugees of Fenris's tribes. I still need to find my camera, the wife misplaces things good LoL, I'll get some more of my current stuff up here.

[Airain]

It took a while, Ive been busy but for the person who recommended I use some purple on my Wolves I dug up this picture, took me a few days sorry. Still haven't found my camera so no new photos yet but I'm working on a bit of fluff for anyone who's interested. That will come later. Cheers.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...i&img=81859