The Void Angels

[ChaosLord Leon Enaek]

Greetings brothers!

Before I spend some time drafting up the Index Astartes: Void Angels article, I wanted to ask more sage members of the board their opinions on a few elements of fluff:

 

1. Would it be acceptable to have my Chapter Master encarcerated in a Dreadnought who is left to slumber away whilst his Chapter, sad at his inability to lead them due to his lax grip on the present, is led by a proxy? Have the Chapter master more as a spiritual figurehead, so to speak?

 

2. Several publications have Chapters refer to themselves by alternative names, either officially or not (such as the Space Wolves being the Rout, and the Space Sharks having a long string of 'High Gothic') - how many 'nicknames' might a Chapter have, and how well known will these be beyond the Chapter itself?

 

3. How antagonistic and cut off can a Space Marine Chapter be to the rest of the Imperium (i.e. lots of collateral damage, occassional blows with a Governor or Inquisitor over some issue of pride) before they get the Marines Manevolant treatment and have to loot everything?

 

4. Finally, how common are Space Hulks on the edge of Imperial Space? Are they common enough for a Chapter to cleanse several large enough to earn some renown?

 

Many thanks :cuss

[Ace Debonair]

1. Would it be acceptable to have my Chapter Master encarcerated in a Dreadnought who is left to slumber away whilst his Chapter, sad at his inability to lead them due to his lax grip on the present, is led by a proxy? Have the Chapter master more as a spiritual figurehead, so to speak?

 

I don't see why not.

 

2. Several publications have Chapters refer to themselves by alternative names, either officially or not (such as the Space Wolves being the Rout, and the Space Sharks having a long string of 'High Gothic') - how many 'nicknames' might a Chapter have, and how well known will these be beyond the Chapter itself?

I'd imagine that varies from Chapter to Chapter. How many nicknames were you planning on having?

 

3. How antagonistic and cut off can a Space Marine Chapter be to the rest of the Imperium (i.e. lots of collateral damage, occassional blows with a Governor or Inquisitor over some issue of pride) before they get the Marines Manevolant treatment and have to loot everything?

 

Again, I think this would depend a lot on the Chapter and how much care was taken to avoid detection. If things are stable in their area aside from teh odd minor squabble, it's doubtful anyone will be too concerned.

 

4. Finally, how common are Space Hulks on the edge of Imperial Space? Are they common enough for a Chapter to cleanse several large enough to earn some renown?

I wouldn't have thought they were very very common, but your Chapter could most definitely make a name for themselves by being adept at boarding actions. You know, pirate ships as well as space hulks, that sort of thing.

[Conn Eremon]

Greetings brothers!

Before I spend some time drafting up the Index Astartes: Void Angels article, I wanted to ask more sage members of the board their opinions on a few elements of fluff:

 

1. Would it be acceptable to have my Chapter Master encarcerated in a Dreadnought who is left to slumber away whilst his Chapter, sad at his inability to lead them due to his lax grip on the present, is led by a proxy? Have the Chapter master more as a spiritual figurehead, so to speak?

 

Having an old Chapter Master incarcerated into a Dreadnought has been done before, so there's no reason why you can't do that. Making the Chapter Master a spiritual figurehead would have more to do with your Chapter's culture and beliefs. It can be done, but it would depend on how you do it. Hopefully well.

 

2. Several publications have Chapters refer to themselves by alternative names, either officially or not (such as the Space Wolves being the Rout, and the Space Sharks having a long string of 'High Gothic') - how many 'nicknames' might a Chapter have, and how well known will these be beyond the Chapter itself?

 

From what I've seen, there are two different ways a Chapter can be named outside of their typical name: A High Gothic translation, or in the tongue of their homeworld. Carcharadon Astra is just High Gothic for Space Sharks, and the Vlka Fenryka is, presumably, the translating of Wolves of Fenris into the language of the Fenrisians, or more appropriately the real world language its based off of. High Gothic, for instance, is Latin, or at least Latin-inspired. Those would be the ways in which an "official" name can be found, from what I've seen. Things like nicknames are probably Chapter, or even Marine, dependent. Such as the Space Wolves calling themselves the Wolves of Fenris, or the Rout, or the Sons of Russ. It's typically just a twist of their normal name, adding in symbolic founders and homeworlds. Like the Blood Angels could call themselves the Angels of Sanguinius, or Baal. Really, it's however you want to treat it. As for how many/how well known, that depends on the nickname itself. You can have as many as you want, there's no limit. You will, however, have only one "official" name. How far known these are depends on how often the Chapter tell it to people. If the Space Wolves ran around for the past ten thousand years screaming that they were the Wolves of Fenris, and not the Space Wolves, then everyone would know them as the Wolves of Fenris.

 

3. How antagonistic and cut off can a Space Marine Chapter be to the rest of the Imperium (i.e. lots of collateral damage, occassional blows with a Governor or Inquisitor over some issue of pride) before they get the Marines Manevolant treatment and have to loot everything?

 

Depends on the situation, I suppose. If they're on the edges of Imperial Space, probably a lot. Fringe Governors might not be all that noted in the grand scheme of things, and the Inquisition is heavily divided within itself. Taking one out might not do much at all. On the flipside of that coin, it could be very little. Besmirch the wrong Inquisitor, and you'll find yourself going the way of the Celestial Lions.

 

4. Finally, how common are Space Hulks on the edge of Imperial Space? Are they common enough for a Chapter to cleanse several large enough to earn some renown?

 

Not common at all. But, how common they are wouldn't have an impact on the second point. If they're so very rare, then having your Chapter cleanse two or three would be enough to earn renown in that regard. I'd say fully cleansing half a dozen is a reasonable number, and the rarity of such vessels would be enough to have that number be rather legendary.

 

Many thanks :tu:

 

Points in bold above.

[ChaosLord Leon Enaek]

Thank you for all your help esteemed brothers <_<

 

decision time: Akroyd Cromwell will indeed be the slumbering Chapter Master and Thade Montfort will rule as Lord Protector in his place. First problem solved.

 

I was planning on having two alternative names;

1) The Sons of Ouroboros - a name based on their spiritual homeworld

2) The Mourners - first used to remind the Chapter of the loss of their founding Master, it has recently come back into use as their Chapter Master slips into the oblivion of Dreadnought sleep.

 

Outstanding - some uppety governors and over eager inquisitors are about to get a wake up call.

 

Thank you for your opinions on the hulk issue - I'll have them cleanse three or so, and a smattering of fleets :tu:

 

again, thank you for your help ^_^

[Octavulg]

1. Would it be acceptable to have my Chapter Master encarcerated in a Dreadnought who is left to slumber away whilst his Chapter, sad at his inability to lead them due to his lax grip on the present, is led by a proxy? Have the Chapter master more as a spiritual figurehead, so to speak?

 

Sure. Not sure why he would still be CM - after all, Bjorn the Fell-Handed sucked it up and stepped down, yet continued to Dreadnought it up in style.

 

3. How antagonistic and cut off can a Space Marine Chapter be to the rest of the Imperium (i.e. lots of collateral damage, occassional blows with a Governor or Inquisitor over some issue of pride) before they get the Marines Manevolant treatment and have to loot everything?

 

Where're you getting the idea they have to loot everything?

 

In any case, it'd depend. Being too much of a dick can get you in trouble. So can being too moral. And having powerful friends can mitigate (or exacerbate) both of those.

 

It depends.

 

4. Finally, how common are Space Hulks on the edge of Imperial Space? Are they common enough for a Chapter to cleanse several large enough to earn some renown?

 

My impression is that Space Hulks are quite common, but that clearing them isn't the sort of thing that makes you famous.

 

In fact, I'm not sure anything Space Marines do makes them that famous. They're Space Marines. The amazing is commonplace.

 

1) The Sons of Ouroboros - a name based on their spiritual homeworld

 

Anticlimactic, I think.

 

2) The Mourners - first used to remind the Chapter of the loss of their founding Master, it has recently come back into use as their Chapter Master slips into the oblivion of Dreadnought sleep.

 

I'd recommend the Mourning X. Where X is Lords, Knights, Sons, what have you.