jokaero weaponsmith Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Is there any Fluff as to when the Blood Angels discovered the STC for supercharged engines or any additional fluff to them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249250-supercharged-tanks/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 The overcharged engines were part of the Baal Predator STC, which was found during the Great Crusade I believe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249250-supercharged-tanks/#findComment-3018802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokaero weaponsmith Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 Thanks for that JamesI, was beginning to think your Chapter was closing ranks. You BA brothers have been holding out on the Adeptus Mechanicus for some time then. Do you know of any more fluff on the overcharged Baal STC or where I could find it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249250-supercharged-tanks/#findComment-3018920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Outside of the BA codex (and older codexes) I'm not sure where are good sources for Baal Predator/Overcharged engines fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249250-supercharged-tanks/#findComment-3018936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Sky Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 There might be something in the old chapter approved books, or perhaps in Imperial Armour volume 2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249250-supercharged-tanks/#findComment-3018987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokaero weaponsmith Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Thank you both, this will help in the writing of my DIY chapter. Plus give me good excuse to start buying IA books :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249250-supercharged-tanks/#findComment-3019216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 The fluff for the supercharged STC is only the case as of the current codex. In the 3rd ed codex, only Rhinos and Razors were overcharged, and that was because the techmarines tweaked their engines to get extra speed from them. Baals were slow tanks. The PDF codex saw baals get faster. You will find very little info on the origin of the OC engines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249250-supercharged-tanks/#findComment-3019329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Sky Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Imperial Armour Volume 2, page 45. "Baal Predators have been in service with the Blood Angels since the earliest days of the Great Crusade. The STC template was recovered from the ruins of the fortress of the arch techno-heretic Lord de Ladt on Atium III, after the Blood Angels stormed the breach and captured de Ladt's inner sanctum. The STC pattern found within was never returned to the Adeptus Mechanicus. Instead the Blood Angels retained the original, returning it to Baal, where it remains stored in a stasis-cell to this day, a relic of the Chapter." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249250-supercharged-tanks/#findComment-3019356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokaero weaponsmith Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Thanks to everyone for their time and help on this, especially Black_Sky havent been able to find even this much detail even on wiki so thanks. Does BA have a strained relation ship with admech? Seems you have some awesome tech compared to other Chapters and yet I thought the Admech would be gunning for your heads on a stick. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249250-supercharged-tanks/#findComment-3019813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Sky Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Blood Angels does indeed have a strained relationship with the AdMech. It is said that this enmity is part of the reason why Blood Angels have such a bad reputation in the Imperium. Despite this, we apparently have some great connections to other influential organisations, the Adeptus Malleus and their Grey Knights . This has resulted in above standard amounts of Land Raiders, access to Storm Ravens and pistol sized melta weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249250-supercharged-tanks/#findComment-3019841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I read a peace on an apocalypse data sheet( can't remember which one sorry) about captain Tycho ordering several predators land raiders and rhino/razors to be retro fitted with Baal pred engines during Armageddon. Maybe this explains the spreading of the tech to other vehicles! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249250-supercharged-tanks/#findComment-3019904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Sky Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 That would probably be the lucifer armoured task force GW link, 3rd from top This datasheet gives another possible explanation to why Blood Angels have fast vehicles. The two sources are apparentle mutually exclusive. Imperial Armour vol. 2 states the Baal pattern Rhino dates back from an STC found during the Great Crusade, while the task force datasheet states that the fast Rhino chassis is no older than the second war for Armageddon. I personally subscribe to the Great Crusade theory, but as I'm not near my books I cannot check old sources for information as to when it was discovered. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249250-supercharged-tanks/#findComment-3020100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordvogalus Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 The impression I got was that Tyco ordered the tanks to be fitted out with engines from the Baal predators, which up untill then had only been used on, well, Baals. The quick re-fits of that war latter lead to permanent improvements to all BA tanks except Land Raiders, which could not carry overcharged engines for a long period of time without taking severe damage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249250-supercharged-tanks/#findComment-3020645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 /\ That was my impression to. That would also allow Both peaces of fluff to make sense Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249250-supercharged-tanks/#findComment-3020720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Sky Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I thought so too. But "These modifications later informed the template for the Baal Rhino [chassis], and a new era of armoured warfare for the Blood Angels", from the end of the fluff text suggests otherwise. This is a point where I suggest we adapt the fluff, and do what Lordvogalus suggests. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249250-supercharged-tanks/#findComment-3020781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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