Morticon Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 THE CONCEPT We are setting up a challenge for all B&C BA members to enjoy, schedule permitting.The basic concept is that we will take part in weekly challenges - playing each other across the world through the use of VASSAL (Explained later if you dont know it) learning and developing as we go along!VASSAL occasionally hosts international 40k tournies, but we're not wanting to take this project on competitively. We're wanting to have a bit of fun and make it about community, learning and fun rather than winning, alone!THE AIM The B&C Blood Angels Forum VASSAL Challenge aims to help us do the following:1. Promote/Foster a greater community spirit on the B&C BA Forums!2. Promote the Blood Angels!3. Help BA players, old and new, learn more about the BA army lists, tactics and strategies!4. Have fun!THE GENERAL RULES 1. Games will be 1500, 1750, 1850 or 2000 Points - as per the most common tournament levels around the world. (Note however, that larger games often take much longer on VASAL, so we recommend smaller the better)2. All games will be BA vs BA. 3. Each week, one standard mission type from the 5th Ed Rule Book will be chosen as the weekly game.4. Each week, a Map will be made by the Mods (or a guest Map designer!) and all games for that week will use that Map5. If you play a member from the forum - you must (please, please) let us know what was played, and how it went!ORGANISING A GAME To organise a game with another player, we will have a sticky thread available where players can note their free times, and request challenges. A.Format your posts as follows:Name: MorticonSize: 1500 or 1750.Time: Available Mon-Fri, 17h00 - 24h00 (+2) (Your available days in the week, the times in your zone and then the UTC location)*NOTE: Guys, please note that since this is an international forum, we request that everyone use UTC (Coordinated Universal Time) details found here:http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/As a result please include how many hours before or after you are from the UTC line.Eg: NYC is (-4), Chicago is (-5)LA is (-7)Cape Town is (+2), London is (+0), Sydney is (+11) etc, etc, etc. This way we can work out what time zones we are in and if we're available for others!B. Once you have organised a challenge please have the courtesy to see it through, as people will book off time for you!C.Label your game room in VASSAL as "BA Challenge"GETTING STARTED For those of you that don't know what VASSAL is, you're in for a surprise.VASSAL is an online Java based application that essentially mimics the ability to play 40k online through the use of an awesome set of sprites and an ingeniously simple program. You will need to download the vassal engine, found here:http://www.vassalengine.org/Once you have downloaded the vassal engine, you will need to get the latest 40k mod! Unfortunately, due to copyright issues GW has asked VASSAL to remove the hosting of the latest 40k mods, and as a result we also cant provide a direct link to it as per B&C policy.However, you can read about the latest mod here and maybe gather where to get it from that point ;) -> http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/VASSAL_40k...ule#Version_5.4FINISHING UP AND CONTRIBUTING Please take some snapshots (either printscreen or the VASSAL in-game button!) and post them and let us know how your batreps went and who you played and what you learned! We'll also have a sticky thread for BatReps and discussions! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Interesting, but BA on BA all the time, every time? In my modest opinion, it might be more interesting AND useful to allow one of the two players to play something else. That would still promote BA but you would get a much better understanding of the army than if you only play against other Angels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3019586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Interesting, but BA on BA all the time, every time? In my modest opinion, it might be more interesting AND useful to allow one of the two players to play something else. That would still promote BA but you would get a much better understanding of the army than if you only play against other Angels. The point for now and the next few weeks is to see what and how different BA players play their army. I agree 100% that you would get a better understanding of your army, but not necessarily the army. You guys are welcome to change it up to whatever- but for the forum, it would be cool, at least for a few weeks to try this and see what we learn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3019755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordvogalus Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 How long are you running it for? I will not be able to play video games untill after Easter, but then I will be on spring break for a week and can probably fit in a few games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3019803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 How long are you running it for? I will not be able to play video games untill after Easter, but then I will be on spring break for a week and can probably fit in a few games. A few months at least buddy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3019806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 The point for now and the next few weeks is to see what and how different BA players play their army. I agree 100% that you would get a better understanding of your army, but not necessarily the army. I disagree. You get a better understanding of the BA army by seeing how it performs agains the whole spectrum of armies out there, not by playing mirror matches all the time. You guys are welcome to change it up to whatever- but for the forum, it would be cool, at least for a few weeks to try this and see what we learn. Well, how about saying that the first 2-3 weeks, it's BA on BA only, after that, any matchup vs BA is good to go? I'd definetely sign up for that! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3019987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I think one of the advantages of BA on BA is getting to see how units/army styles you normally dislike or avoid work out. But eventually it would be good to mix in other armies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3019990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 I think one of the advantages of BA on BA is getting to see how units/army styles you normally dislike or avoid work out. But eventually it would be good to mix in other armies. That's exactly the theory behind the madness! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3020081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordvogalus Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 What only two non-mods replying? This is a brilliant idea and a chance to test out ideas for new types of competitive army lists (I have several that I will be fielding the week after Easter). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3020670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Any plans to expand this at some point? I know I'd like to get in on it with some Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3020675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 IM IN!!!!! cannot wait for this, ive only just recently got into Vassal40k myself - so i canassist with vassal problems (OSX etc, ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3020712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordvogalus Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Any plans to expand this at some point? I know I'd like to get in on it with some Wolves. Go to the Space Wolf mods and ask them to start one up. Who knows, maybe eventually we can have all the sub-forums doing it and have inter-forum championship battles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3021282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Oh, I'm sure we can come up with something. We already have the insanity that is Inglorious Drunkards. I'll see if I can't pop some things off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3021353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinful eyes Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 As a person who has had no opportunity to get out and play a game of 40k in about 7 months this is incredible. I will definetly be giving this a chance if i can find the time! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3021386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 As a person who has had no opportunity to get out and play a game of 40k in about 7 months this is incredible. I will definetly be giving this a chance if i can find the time! Sinful Eyes and Emperors Immortal and Lord Volg - get your times up in the time/schedule thread as soon as you can! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3021667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordvogalus Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 As a person who has had no opportunity to get out and play a game of 40k in about 7 months this is incredible. I will definetly be giving this a chance if i can find the time! Sinful Eyes and Emperors Immortal and Lord Volg - get your times up in the time/schedule thread as soon as you can! Well, like I said earlier, I'm not available untill after Easter, but I could put up a tenative schedule for after April 8th. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3022114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Brethren of Sanguinius, i can help with setup if needed, but all options are right-click menus on teh sprites themselves. Heres a good intro video; American version, still good though And a better guide from bloodofkittens (that nun looks like my English teacher...) Just play around with it is the best option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3022365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnaeph34rn473 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I downloaded VASSAL and have installed the latest 40k pack, I'm fooling around with it now and think I have most of it figured out, except for one simple probably incredibly dumb problem. How do I know exactly how far I can move my models? I see when I right click them I can move them forward, back, or side to side exactly 1 or 6 inches, but what if I want to move them diagonally or something? The range thread doesn't stay on the table after I measure out a range, so I can't just measure and then move exactly that far. It seems like I have to move what I guess to be about the right distance, and then measure to check? Is this the case? Surely there is an easier way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3022993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I tend to point them where I want them to go, then move forward in 1 inch bursts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3022994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnaeph34rn473 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Thanks for the quick reply, I guess that would be fairly effective, I was hoping there would be some sort of distance meter that would pop up while I was moving them. Oh well, not a huge deterrent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3023000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 They have rulers that you can use, but its probably better to just use the "control" button and the side arrow keys to turn the facing, then the front arrow key to move forward an Inch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3023094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagashnee Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Downloading Vassal and the 40k mod at the moment, will try it out and post my times as soon as i get some practice on it. This is a great idea! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3024078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunate Son Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Where are the moderator made maps we're supposed to use? Perhaps I missed that... (sorry) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3042519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 Where are the moderator made maps we're supposed to use?Perhaps I missed that... (sorry) They are suppsoed to be uploaded to help with conformity as far as missions etc each week. But the BA forum peeps seem to be draggin feet a bit so, theres no real need for it at the moment sadly. So, just go with whatevs for now! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3042655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Just had an idea: why don't we setup a meeting room on Vassal? Would make it easier to grab games, no? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249268-the-bc-blood-angels-forum-vassal-challenge/#findComment-3047906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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