Jupiter Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I have 3 dreads in mind to add to my greco-roman-themed DIY chapter (see my blog for more on that), but there's one that really stands out in fitting with the theme. While I haven't started work on the model yet, I put a pen to paper to sketch out what the dread would look like. Without further explanation, here's what I came up with: http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/4056/img0197wu.th.jpg And I'm also considering doing a venerable-type head as below: http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/1676/img0198p.th.jpg I'm thinking I'll field him as an ironclad with dual heavy flamers in a drop pod... should do pretty well for supporting one of my assault/vanguard squads and will look damn cool! (I hope...) Unfortunately with 10 weeks of classes coming up starting this week, it might be a while before I get around to it. However, I have a few things I wanted your guys' opinions on; namely: 1) Where should I put the flamers? I think it might be able to work with some plasticard on the spear hand, but I don't see where to make it work on the shield arm without breaking up the shield... Could/should I mount them under the dreadnought's "armpits"? IE next to the torso and directly above the legs? 2) I did a pretty extensive search on the internet and only found a few other pics of dreads with big tower shields. Anyone know of any cool ones I could check out? 3) I'll need a pair of dread CCW fists that could be clenched/modeled to be holding a spear and a shield-handle. Would I be better off kitbashing the ironclad and venerable kids? Having never cracked the ironclad box, I don't know what the arm options look like. I would be open to making a couple of dreads at once, especially since I have 3 in mind that I want to build up. Anyway, any C&C or responses to my questions would be awesome. Cheers! Jupiter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 There's a right handed ccw arm in the ironclad box. Also, the furioso kit might be worth a look. It has the force weapon arm for the librarian dread which would be fairly easy to modify into a spear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssspectre Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Second the idea regarding the furioso's force weapon. That's a left arm though, so you'll need to convert it a bit if you want it on the right (which shouldn't be that difficult, in theory). Stick the flamers in the armpits, as you suggest. As for a shield? Dude, good luck. The best grippy hand is the one from the venerable dreadnought (the one that looks like an actual hand and not a weird stubby claw). Dunno where you can get a good size shield from though. You may have to try scratchbuilding that. I guess I'd recommend starting with the venerable dread kit, and then adding a furioso force weapon, some kind of right-sided dread ccw and a second heavy flamer from your favourite bitz source. Or you can start with a furioso and try to fit a venerable front piece and the venerable's grippy hand on that. When it gets difficult, take heart from how cool it will look when you're done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Whilst it would be considered heretical by many, perhaps try using a hand from the Eldar wraithlord? combine it with the reguler DCCW arm, it shoudl then be able to hold a sheild, though it could be easier to just take a regular DCCW and model it as part of the Shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 How about mounting the heavy flamers on the spear itself in some way? One on either side of the blade for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnosaur93 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 putting the flamers on the bottom of the torso seems the simplest and most sleek solution... also, to be honest, dreads "holding" actual weapons look silly in my opinnion, its like sticking swords on a tank's turret... especially shields (i mean, come on, its allready armour plates on legs as is, why would you even have a shield?) if you really want a shield though, i suggest intergrating it into the regular CC-arm (like extented plating on the side of it, making it more buckler like) another idea may be to simply not make it as a regular dread, and spartan up a contemptor, rather, since its more humanoid looking, a spear and shield should look waaaaaay better on that... i would still suggest integrating the weapon on it somehow, though (like the librarian-dread arm for the spear) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 My method would be to use the furioso spear/force weapon on the left arm, and then take the right hand ccw arm, but leave off the grippy claw assemblage. You can then mount a shield on the 'wrist' plate and mount the hvy flamer in place of the 'hand'. Haven't tried it yet, but I've done a couple of siege dreads with ork deff dread weapons replacing the standard hand and they worked pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Corsican Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I made something similar a while ago - check my sig below. I used mostly plastic tubing and plastic sheets. I did use the Venerable "fist" and adapted it to be holding the shield - it worked pretty well (I don't think there's a pic of that in the link). Also, I used the Forgeworld MKIV as the base of the dread and it's got empty spaces at the waist to add the flamer/melta/etc. Good luck! The sketch looks like a great start - can't wait to see what you build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kirk Alexander Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I like the idea. Looking forward to seeing it in model form. But know this I will steal the concept if you don't complete it, I may steal it any way ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 Hey guys, thanks so much for all the suggestions. I got around to stopping by my FNGW yesterday and, while they didn't have any furiosos in stock, went for the venerable kit like you guys suggested. As it turns out, I had quite a few bitz left on the sprues from an older ven dread my brother did up for his space wolves army, so I was able to make it work out alright. I'm pretty happy with the pose/how it all turned out... except for a few things, namely: 1) I only have one heavy flamer attached, and I really don't like it's position. @Kierdale, I REALLY like your suggestion of adding one of the flamers onto the spear itself, so I think I'll try for that. As for the other one... I really don't know. Any thoughts? There didn't seem to be enough room under the armpits... 2) Obviously it's still very much a WIP, so I have a lot of cleaning up to do. Also, I still need to add some guitar string for cables/etc -- the shield arm isn't mechanized enough yet. 3) I was hoping to add enough plasticard so it could be believably fielded as any of the 3 patterns of the dreads, and I think I accomplished that, but I wouldn't mind adding some more ornate plasticard work... any ideas? I was thinking of making some roman-legionaire-esque shoulder pads or something. Anyway, here's the pics (still WIP): http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4821/img0209zt.th.jpg http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8173/img0212s.th.jpg http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1263/img0211tpq.th.jpg http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2120/img0210t.th.jpg The shield arm and the missile launcher are both magnetized: http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9500/img0213w.th.jpg I'm going to build up an assault cannon arm and magnetize it. Also, I plan on making a magnetized banner to fill the gap should I choose not to field him with hunter-killers/a missile launcher. Those two additions would allow me to field this guy as: 1) Ironclad, 2x heavy flamer, with or without hunter-killers 2) Ven/Regular Dread, DCCW + Heavy Flamer, Assault Cannon, with or without hunter killers 3) Ven/Regular Dread, DCCW + Heavy Flamer, Missile Launcher, with or without hunter killers ...doing the math, that's 10 different combinations! Quite a steal for a $45 kit (plus some magnets) :tu: Also, I've written up some fluff for him, for those who are interested. My army is representing the 2nd chapter of the Sons of Jupiter (see my blog for more fluff), so I thought it would be fitting for my most elaborate dread in the army to be someone important. I've decided on calling him Brother-Ancient Romulus, who was the very first captain of the 2nd company. After he was nearly-fatally wounded during a siege of a major city during the campaign to recapture their homeworld (again, see my blog for more fluff), he was interred into one of the company's original dreadnaughts and has been its pilot ever since. Kinda cool, and I'll flesh it out a little more as time goes on. C&C always appreciated! Jupiter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssspectre Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 That is... Wow. With your plasticard skills I guess I'm surprised you didn't do some leather strips over the groin (where right now he's got regular cloth). I don't know if it's still possible to change things down there, but it'd complete the look. Awesome, very imposing dreadnought. Paint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I really like that, very nice conversion and carries a certain amount of weight with it. Very cool! :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 Thanks for the kind words guys :D @ssspectre: I didn't even think of that! That's a fantastic idea... and I think it *should* be possible. I'll have to take a look at it, but that could be a really nice addition to the overall look. You're certainly right about that! Sorry for the double post, but here he is again in comparison to my first tac squad sergeant (right) and one of my HQ (left). Note the spear-and-shield theme :tu: http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/4594/img0215d.th.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Priest Haelaeif Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Ho hum. While your conversion is certainly not bad, dreads with some kind of blade weapon just never appealed to me. I just cannot imagine a dreadnought being agile enough to use one to any useful effect. To me, dreadnoughts are slow, hulking monster machines whose effectiveness stems from their mass and heavy armour. They are more likely to just smash something than to stab and parry. Edit: I really like the marines though. Awesome style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryphaus 101 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Very nice dreadnought! Can't wait to see it painted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Nice one dude, looking real sharp !!! A suggestion regarding the heavy flamer, not my idea, can't even remember who to credit... Cheers, Jono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 While it's certainly overdue, I finally got around to throwing some paint on the spartan dread. I'm happy with how he's turning out. All that's left are all of his magnetized pieces (and yes, the collection of armaments has expanded!) and some touchups on him/his base. Pics: http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/6429/img0290tu.th.jpg http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4901/img0291si.th.jpg http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/504/img0292zks.th.jpg http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3560/img0293rs.th.jpg http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/7998/img0294t.th.jpg C&C always appreciated! Jupiter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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