2500kgm3 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Maybe someone remembers my marines, and the space marine temple I designed out of cardboard: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/9/20/273133_sm-cardboard%20inspiration.jpg Unfortunately, I was not satisfied with the level of detail, so I decided to buidl a better version, which will be bigger, and much mpre detailed, with more elaborate geometry, and with the posibility to move miniatures through it easily. The temple would be composed of modular pieces, dozens and dozens of them. There would be about 25 types of pieces (gates, full walls, windows...) and they will be designed to be modular and interchangeable. I am building one single piece of each type, giving it enough detail, and then I will copy it in resin, to get the ammount of pieces needed for the full temple. Since mould materials for resin are quite expensive, I have started by creating just 7-8 types of pieces. These are not enough in any way to create a full cathedral, but will be enough to build a Bastion style building for my marines. Here, you can see the first piece I have built. Each piece will have different details on each face, to allow for some variety. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/9/26/275213_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/9/27/275584_sm-.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Quite an ambitious project! I'm impressed. Hopefully your dedication -- and your wallet -- will hold up for this project, because it would be amazing to see it completed. Plus... you could always sell copies of the pieces if they turned out nice enough :lol: How are you going to be able to add multiple levels? I might be mistaken (the picture at the top of the post is too small to tell) but it looks like you have quite an elaborate vaulted ceiling (or the remains thereof). The first piece looks very nice though. Looking forward to more! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3022873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 Quite an ambitious project! I'm impressed. Hopefully your dedication -- and your wallet -- will hold up for this project, because it would be amazing to see it completed. Plus... you could always sell copies of the pieces if they turned out nice enough :wacko: How are you going to be able to add multiple levels? I might be mistaken (the picture at the top of the post is too small to tell) but it looks like you have quite an elaborate vaulted ceiling (or the remains thereof). The first piece looks very nice though. Looking forward to more! I am building this to be dissasembled during play in order to get miniatures into the different storeys. Regarding vaulted ceilings... I am not sure about that right now. I will start with a standard surface in this tower for miniatures to stand on it. The prototipe tower will have a ground floor, first storey and an open second storey. A squad of ten miniatures will be able to stand on each storey. Or even 25 Warhammer Fantasy miniatures, on a 5x5 formation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3023229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 Here is the cardboard base for the next piece! I still need to sculpt the detail on it, of course. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/9/20/273367_sm-.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3024465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander alexander Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Wow, I hope you can finish the project, it looks like it's off to a really good start. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3024677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 Thanks for your encouragement! Here is the start of the first modelling in this piece. The ornaments are supposed to resemble long lost heroes and myths, therefore I avoided explicit power armour or such iconography, since these figures' real identity and appaerance would be lost in the past: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/9/21/273739_sm-.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3025885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicorex Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 You certianly have my intrest peeked. Looks good so far. Keep up the good work Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3026556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted March 29, 2012 Author Share Posted March 29, 2012 The sculpting in this piece has been finished! I am thinking I should also create an alternative piece with windows, based on this one, just by getting rid of the big human-like sculptures. Due to the height of the window sill, tanks would be able to shoot through these windows, while infantry would not, just to provide a different challenge on the battlefield. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/9/22/273893_sm-.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3027189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 And here you have got the other side of that piece, so there is some variety when the tower is assembled. Do you think it is coherent enough, while still being different? or is it too similar? http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/9/26/275212_sm-.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3029191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted April 3, 2012 Author Share Posted April 3, 2012 Here you can see the next piece in line, a single storey wall: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/9/28/276121_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/9/28/276122_sm-.JPG I think it works well as a window to let light inside the building, but I doubt it will look good as a piece to take cover behind. Therefore, I am working on a replacement for it which I find more suitable for that role. In this piece, marines would be able to duck behind cover instead of trying to squeeze themselves behind a tiny pillar... Which would be quite comical, by the way. The brownstuff detailing is still missing, as you can see. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/29/347294_sm-.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/29/347293_sm-.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3031370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew J Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Wow incredible work. I cant wait to see each panel finished. The whole thing put together will look great! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3031444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted April 6, 2012 Author Share Posted April 6, 2012 Every storey needs a floor! This floor supports a full 10 man squad without any problems, or even a 5x5 infantry formation from Warhammer Fantasy Battles. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/9/27/275917_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/9/27/275915_sm-.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3033468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 All gothic structure need buttresses! so let's have some! I am now working on several wall sections, sculpting is still pending. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/9/30/276588_sm-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/9/30/276589_sm-.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3035305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share Posted April 10, 2012 This is the one storey wall without windows segment. And this brings us to the question of the day! I want to sculpt a generic scene spanning these four "windows". I was thinking about depicting a siege, or people preaching to a deity of some sort. Any Ideas? I am trying to avoid the "huge figures" I used in the two storey high wall without windows segment. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/6/350082_sm-.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3036074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Absolutely stellar work – the attention to detail, realism and quality of the craftsmanship is fantastic. I want to sculpt a generic scene spanning these four "windows". I was thinking about depicting a siege, or people preaching to a deity of some sort. Any Ideas? I am trying to avoid the "huge figures" I used in the two storey high wall without windows segment. If you're after a generic scene, then you might consider a pilgrimage – this is a common theme in religious art that would work well on a landscape format. The columns could provide breaks in the narrative (a little like a comic strip panel), so the same figure could appear in all four – looking up being inspired; riding on a horse/similar (perhaps a mythical/exotic beast, like a unicorn, lizard or demi-gryph?); meeting another figure; meeting a grisly end/martyrdom. If you'd like to add a 40k flavour without being explicit about it (and keeping it fairly generic), then I'd have to recommend John Blanche's fantastic Eternity Gate artwork as inspiration: http://img.waffleimages.com/39f2a668e96b4cf7583af744f29e6fa577a37466/EternityGate.jpg The main image is a metaphorical treatment of the Emperor slaying Horus, and it contains a lot of allegorical, grotesque and symbolic imagery that might be appropriate without tying the piece too closely to the 40k IP. These include the human-headed serpent (Horus), the spear and victory laurels of the Emperor, fantastic beasts like the griffon and lammasu, and symbols like the eye in Horus' tail and the peculiar logo right in the very centre. In addition to the main image, there are some great distinctive images like bald angels, bells, comets and the twin-headed eagle; plus the material in the banners that line the hall – a winged figure with a flaming sword, an excruciated skeleton with laurels... Lovely stuff for inspiration. ++ You've done some really fantastic work here – I look forward to seeing the project develop; and would really encourage you to look into producing this to sell. It's gorgeous! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3036099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 If you're after a generic scene, then you might consider a pilgrimage – this is a common theme in religious art that would work well on a landscape format. The columns could provide breaks in the narrative (a little like a comic strip panel), so the same figure could appear in all four – looking up being inspired; riding on a horse/similar (perhaps a mythical/exotic beast, like a unicorn, lizard or demi-gryph?); meeting another figure; meeting a grisly end/martyrdom. If you'd like to add a 40k flavour without being explicit about it (and keeping it fairly generic), then I'd have to recommend John Blanche's fantastic Eternity Gate artwork as inspiration: The main image is a metaphorical treatment of the Emperor slaying Horus, and it contains a lot of allegorical, grotesque and symbolic imagery that might be appropriate without tying the piece too closely to the 40k IP. These include the human-headed serpent (Horus), the spear and victory laurels of the Emperor, fantastic beasts like the griffon and lammasu, and symbols like the eye in Horus' tail and the peculiar logo right in the very centre. In addition to the main image, there are some great distinctive images like bald angels, bells, comets and the twin-headed eagle; plus the material in the banners that line the hall – a winged figure with a flaming sword, an excruciated skeleton with laurels... Lovely stuff for inspiration. That is an amazing picture. I know I would never be able to do justice to it with my limited sculpting talent, but I will learn from the allegorical imaginery and use it in the sculpting. Thanks a lot for inspiring me! I can finally announce I have finished the cardboard base for all the pieces I need for this first "Pack" I am creating (I am still thinking about making a stairway piece, but I feel If I start building that, I will finish even later!) In total, I needed four new pieces: The arc, One storey wall without windows, One storey wall with windows, and a two storey wall with windows. I have started "cleaning" and tidying up the pieces with putty, in order to avoid recesses that could be problematic for the silicon when I cast the pieces. It is a very tiresome process, but it is essential to do before sculpting starts. I think I will need to sculpt for 40 hours in order to finish the project, since both faces of all these pieces need sculpting. Anyway, I am going to show you these four new pieces, one on top of another as if it was a tall tower (even if the arc at the top has nothing to do there xD). Sculpting is still missing, of course. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/11/352512_sm-.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3042733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legoss Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 These look awesome, now I can follow your work on two forums eh? Too bad the ships on dakka dont belong here, they're pretty inspired too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3042877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDragon66 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 very cool work, reminds me of an old european gothic cathedral Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3043046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew J Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Are you planning on selling cast stuff from these? I think you could easily get some customers from this as they look awesome and gothic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3043461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 very cool work, reminds me of an old european gothic cathedral Thanks! It was designed to be a gothic cathedral before I decided to start with a single tower. Are you planning on selling cast stuff from these? I think you could easily get some customers from this as they look awesome and gothic Why not? I am considering that. And I finally finished the cleanup of the pieces, and drew some motifs to sculpt on them. It's not static, just a guideline for sculpting. I hope these motifs will still be in line with the previous pieces. ¿What do you think? I will start sculpting with the upper piece and go on from there, although as you see, I already sculpted some wings on the lower piece, and some flames on the middle one. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/23/357421_sm-.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3045910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 Well, after not being able to work propperly, I have finished two of the last four pieces. Both are really similar in both faces, so I am only showing you one face for each piece. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/30/360310_sm-.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/30/360311_sm-.jpg I have started the sculpting in the two storey piece, although it's not ready yet. The last piece I will work on will be the windowless one storey piece. I have thought about creating a "stairs" piece to be able to create a complex building or fortress. I find that would be great, and not that much of a problem. These are yet to be designed, however, and would require even more silicon. Maybe I could work on it as the first piece I work after the first pieces are casted. Maybe an "open door" piece would be great as well. What do you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3050546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 All this stuff is really impressive. I love the detail youre putting into each piece. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3050549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 I finally managed to finish another piece. This had more work going for it, but the next (and last) one will be harder to sculpt. here are the pics of the piece. I am kinda fond of this one, since the windows prevent line of sight from infantry, but turret mounted weapons in tanks would be able to shoot through them. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/5/11/365459_sm-.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/5/11/365460_sm-.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3059119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 This is CRAZY AWESOME. You should take terrain commissions! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3059150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 This thread is amazing! The detail you've put into each piece is just awe inspiring! I look forward to more! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/#findComment-3059191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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