Evil eyeball Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 WOW just WOW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3060173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted May 26, 2012 Author Share Posted May 26, 2012 This is CRAZY AWESOME. You should take terrain commissions! Anything that gets people happy and makes me money would be welcome, since silicon moulds aren't cheap xD This thread is amazing! The detail you've put into each piece is just awe inspiring! I look forward to more! ;) Thanks for the feedback, everybody. And please, excuse me for the lack of timely updates. Anyway, as you know, my main goal is completing the tower pieces in order to be able to create a modular terrain sistem. Finally, I can show you the last piece I will sculpt before I try to produce the first terrain set. After that, I will have to make the moulds for all the other pieces and create copies. One face of it has been already finished, while the other one is designed. I am not too fond of the lack of movement of the sculpted side, so I will go for more movement on the opposite one. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/5/26/370262_sm-.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/5/26/370263_sm-.jpg That is the last thing I would have to sculpt to finish the first batch of pieces and I can't believe this phase is finally coming to an end! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3070039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster lisander Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 AMAZING! this works is truly a master piece. i wish i had the time, space, material and energy to attempt this. is it to much to ask that GW or a third part make moldes like the massive gothic architecture we see in our minds eye and sell them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3070073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted June 2, 2012 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 And finally, Here is the last piece of sculpting for the Sentry Tower I am quite proud of my sculpting in this side of the piece. The allegoric take is loosely inspired on the art I was shown in this very thread. Now, I only have to get the money for the silicon and resin for the castings... That's not a small feat. I have no clue regarding that. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/5/26/370261_sm-.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3076213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 I'd bet these are bigger than the standard CoD wall sections, but I have never had any of those in my hands yet. Here you can see all the original pieces against a background where each square represents a square centimeter. Therefore, the moulds are quite expensive, because the sheer ammount of silicon required. That's the phase I am now in, getting about 170€ to buy enough silicon for the moulds to be made. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/5/26/370260_sm-Modular%20tower%20system%20original%20pieces.jpg It looks way better as a black and white photo, since everything looks like if it was made of the same material. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3079519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClockworkTheif Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 This is an amazing project. Could you possibly make a slide show tutorial for this on YouTube? I want to make my own gameboard with bastions and building and cathedrals that are made cheaply, at least more cheaply than buying a cathedral($300+). Love the project. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3079524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew J Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 It looks great all together like that! Great work and good luck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3079582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 That's the phase I am now in, getting about 170€ to buy enough silicon for the moulds to be made. Maybe you could try collecting some donations, with a small "thank you present" given to everyone who donates at least 20-30€? Anyhow, I hope that you manage to get those molds! And this project, like your last which I remember, is awesomely cool ;) Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3079598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 This is an amazing project. Could you possibly make a slide show tutorial for this on YouTube? I want to make my own gameboard with bastions and building and cathedrals that are made cheaply, at least more cheaply than buying a cathedral($300+). Love the project. Since it's only sculpting, I don't have pics of the process, nor do I think it would be really that interesting to see. I also build cardboard boats for warhammer miniatures, and I thought videoblogging about that would be great, but the only camera I have can't record any more than a few minutes of video. That's the phase I am now in, getting about 170€ to buy enough silicon for the moulds to be made. Maybe you could try collecting some donations, with a small "thank you present" given to everyone who donates at least 20-30€? Anyhow, I hope that you manage to get those molds! And this project, like your last which I remember, is awesomely cool :D Ludovic Well, if someone donated 30€, they would get their own tower! (shipping costs not included) xD But as I am not 100% sure these pieces would work propperly when assembled, since I built them by hand and I might be off by a milimeter or so, I preffer not to use any money from investors, since I am not certain I will get this done on my first try. The only ethical way to do this first batch is to fund it myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3080219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightguy Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Holy crap. I'd order a kit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3080345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Is that to say you might allow for donations at a later time? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3080356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 That is to say I do not discard that option for some other long-term projects I have in mind, which remove the "human error" factor from the equation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3080618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 Sorry for the lack of updates, but real life has been quite time consuming lately. Fortunately, these problems seem to have been solved now, and I shall have some free time on my evenings (I even managed to start painting a miniature from a Space Marine Assault Squad I had laying around, waiting to get painted and assembled since last summer -You know my stance. If it's not painted, I won't put it on the gaming table-) I figured out I hadn't enough Lego pieces to build frames for the mould creation process (specially if I want to pour the silicon in bulk) so I decided to build some wodden frames. Since I have 10 different sized moulds, I made 10 different sized frames, using nails and contact glue. Most of these frames will be used to make up to 3 different moulds, for 3 different pieces. I should have about... 22 moulds to do off these 10 wodden frames. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/2/384449_sm-.jpg I should buy silicon and start pouring it in a week or so, tops. Or at least, that's what I hope to do. On a sidenote, I have heard Monstruous Creatures are getting a big buff in Warhammer 40k sixth Edition! And by having access to allies, I might be able to add one of them to my Space Marine army! Therefore, I got a Monstruous Creature! Meet Tyrion, a Monstruous Creature we rescued from a car tyre some days ago. He seems to have been produced only 1 month ago. (Hands provided by my wife for size comparison) Although I have heard I would get more benefits if I had invested into a winged monstruous creature... Bah, what's done is done xD http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/2/384454_sm-My%20new%20Monstruous%20Creature.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3104856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Therefore, I got a Monstruous Creature! Meet Tyrion, a Monstruous Creature we rescued from a car tyre some days ago. He seems to have been produced only 1 month ago. (Hands provided by my wife for size comparison) Been reading some Game of Thrones have we? He's a cute little beast, that's for sure. Digging the tower, looking forward to more progress (but you should probably get your kitten his shots first) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3105106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 Well, today I drove one hour to get to the shop where I could buy silicon and resin for the moulds. Guess what my face looked like when I found it closed. Apparently, this month they do not open the store during the evening. It's only open on mornings. And I must attend AutoCad lessons every morning, two hours away, for six more months. I don't need to say I was NOT happy. I will try to get someone to buy for me the eight Kilograms of Silicon needed for this proyect, but a slight delay on my schedule is unavoidable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3110653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 I have finally made some arrangements for resin to be delivered to me by friday. This week seems to be going to become a rather busy week, and I am leaving for Germany in two weeks (I'll be staying there for another week or so), so I am in quite a difficult spot right now. I would have loved to be able to start casting during the last week so I would have much less pressure. Well, nothing comes out as we expected. Ever. So if life gives you lemons, make lemonade. In this case, if life gives me time, I make more tower pieces. Since sixth edition warhammer 40k allows the use of bastions on regular games as part of your armylist, I thought I could make some small conversion piece to turn my tower into a bastion (or a bastion and a half, as it's larger than the GW kit). The only thing it was lacking was weaponry, so I built a gun in a heavy bolter style to fit in the window areas of some pieces. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/9/387275_sm-.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/9/387276_sm-.jpg I also built a small "control panel" addition to block the other side of the window where the gun is located, allowing it to be manned. Please, note the control panel should be on the other side of the wall, behind the gun. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/9/387277_sm-.jpg Since there is no way of placing the gun in the middle of the way section, I thought about gluing two of these guns side by side in the two central windows of the wall section. Maybe have them serve as a BS1, twin linked heavy bolter instead of a BS2 heavy bolter? And since I have always wanted to develop a system fully capable of forming a modular table on its own, I have been building some road and ground floor pieces. The ground floor pieces will work as walkways around the buildings as well, being sightly higher than the road pieces. The column pieces will fit on the ground floor pieces as well, to make assembly easier. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/9/387273_sm-.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/9/387274_sm-.jpg And finally, I started building some propper stairs. I was really looking forward to them, since I feel going up and down floors by hatches could get old quickly in a cool looking table. And I am quite fond of the work in progress stairs I started to build. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/9/387278_sm-.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/9/387279_sm-.jpg Unfortunately, as I built these I started noticing they have a very limited use. These would be a very expensive piece to make, and take up waaay too much space on the board. That is fine with a display board, full of custom scenery, but with a modular board, where scenery space is at a premium because of you wanting the module size to be as small as possible to allow for more combinations, these have a very limited use. Therefore, I might discontinue that section, in favour of some more variety regarding floor tiles. I feel a board built with these pieces would lack some propper area terrain, so I was thinking about road tiles with craters. Do you have any more suggestions regarding area terrain? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3115102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EgoDraconumNigrorum Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Awesome project you have there, mate! Literally cant wait to see this thing finished! - EgoDraconumNigrorum Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3115161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 I finally started creating the moulds. I unfortunately had some problems with the moulds, since a handful of the items needed for ensuring both parts of the mould fit seamlessly... floated off the liquid silicon and had to be removed. I will go on with the other side of these "faulty" moulds, since I hope it is not a capital problem. Building a mould for the pillar has been as much of a painful experience as I had imagined, since it is a really complex piece for a two-part mould. And the most difficult part of that process (removing the plasticine on the lower part of the piece) is still to be done. The Xs mark the pieces that drifted away and were removed. I will try to cut some bumps myself to replace them. I also noticed the upper silicon wall in the pillar section looked way too thin. It seems silicon has been dripping overnight to the empty lower part of the mould through a small joint between the plasticine and the original piece itself. I will have to reinforce one of the sides of the mould by replacing the lost silicon for it to have thickier walls and be more stable. This means I won't be able to check if the mould is viable until that new layer dries. The place where the silicon fell is marked with a cercle in these shots. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/12/388520_sm-.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/12/388521_sm-.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3118539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 After trashing the four half-moulds I had made, I started again from scratch, this time listening to the wisdom of the Internet. I was almost sure it was not going to end well, since the silicon refused to cure past 70% strength, and the cardboard originals were destroyed, parts of its surface stripped by the silicon. I almost lost any hope and wanted to cut my losses and let this proyect go. However, after brushing the moulds with more catalizer, the silicon seemed to harden enough to be able to cast on them . This was the result: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/16/390336_sm-.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/16/390337_sm-.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/16/390338_sm-.jpg Barring some bubbles on the very low edges of the mould, the casts are flawless regarding the level of detail. The two storey high window piece had some problems, however, since the mould had warped because of the pressure applied by rubber bands in the casting process, so the piece was way thickier on the center than intended, so the windows that were supposed to be filled with light flash were clogged with half a centimeter of resin. But after using some wodden pieces to regularize the pressure on the mould, I was finally successfull, and avoided any resin leakage. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/16/390339_sm-.jpg These pieces are of a quality way higher than I expected! Two more moulds are now under construcion. A ground floor tile, and another 2 storey piece. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3123498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwing70 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 looking good so far :( Looks like there's quite a learning curve with the casting, glad you haven't given up yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3123711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Looking great :( Keep up the excellent work! Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3123745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 After getting one copy of one of each of the type of walls done (wall without windows, one storey high; and wall with windows, two storeys high) , I have started working on more moulds for more pieces I have already ready for cloning: two types of butresses (two and three storeys high), wall with windows, one storey high, and wall without windows, two storeys high. In addition, I have worked on a floor tile and a pillar piece. I am quite nervous about that last one, since it is essential for the modular system I developed. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/19/391730_sm-.jpg I have also been working on the originals for some other options, such as paved roads, and a paved road with craters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3126990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal van Trapp Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 could we perhaps get a scale pic (like the black and white one) with a marine, i saw the one with a marine but i still can't grasp how tall the walls are (probably because of their length) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3127684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax Tlamunus Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 If you ever make these available for purchase, I'll buy one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3128348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2500kgm3 Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 could we perhaps get a scale pic (like the black and white one) with a marine, i saw the one with a marine but i still can't grasp how tall the walls are (probably because of their length) The pics in this post have all been referenced to a standard warhammer 40k space marine. One storey is 3 inches tall in this building sistem, and wall sections are of eiter one storey tall (3 inches) or two storeys tall (6 inches) If you ever make these available for purchase, I'll buy one. I might look for you in a few months, so keep watching xD Since I am leaving for Germany and I won't be able to work on my projects for no less than a week and a half, I decided to let you with as much content as I could regarding this project. First of all, I have designed some road tiles in addition to ground floor tiles for the buildings, including a difficult terrain road tile, where meteors have crashed into the ground. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/21/392692_sm-.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/21/392691_sm-.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/21/392690_sm-.jpg And I have already casted some pillar pieces, so I can start to dryfit some of the pieces. This is the result! These are just dry fitted. No blue-tac to hold them on place, and obviously, no glue. Just gravity. As expected from the fact that all the originals were cut and sculpted by hand, in order to get a perfect result some minimum gap-filling would be required, but I doubt it will be as glaring of a problem as it shows here once the pieces are propperly glued. As you will surely notice, some of these pieces have apparent bubbles or miscasts. These are all test pieces, and only the window wall ones have a quality I would consider final, even if they are stained due to being part of the initial cast run (no bubbles but a handful of very small ones on the very edge of the base, which can hardly be noticed) http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/21/392683_sm-.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/21/392684_sm-.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/21/392675_sm-.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/21/392677_sm-.jpg And finally, as I am forced to be in front of a computer during long times with nothing to do, I decided to use that time to design yet another gaming table, this time using the pieces I am mass producing. SINCE I CAN'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO EMBEED YOUTUBE VIDEOS, PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING LINK: The mockup features 6 60*60cm boards which can be rotated and switch its place with any other board. (these divisions appear in the picture as a continuous black line) All of these feature both several buildings or walls, and road tiles. This division of 6 boards alone allows for more than 18 road (and therefore, board) configurations. In addition, every 60*60 board can be divided into 3 different shaped "miniboards" (defined by the dashed lines within the 60*60 boards) which can be interchanged among several boards, or even rotated on their spot, providing even more variety. Here you can see the initial 18 configurations of the table (The video shows a configuration that won't be found listed here either): -Light grey represents roads, blue represents standard paving. -Darker grey and darker greish-blue represent difficult terrain variations of the previous terrain. -Dark blue represents buildings. The darker the blue, the taller that part of the building is. -If a building is crossed by dashing lines, it allows movement at ground level, withouth having to enter the building itself. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/7/20/392232_sm-Table%20configurations.jpg See you in a week and a half! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249565-gothic-sentry-tower/page/2/#findComment-3128383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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