Master Avoghai Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Actually, I'm wondering wether it's the base colour or the colour used for the highlights that has changed. If you look carefully it seems that the DA on the picture, the green used for highlight is much more different from Snot green. Snot green is a mix of DA + yellown. On the picture, it seems that the green is a mix between DA and bleached bone... Maybe that's what create a difference more than the base colour... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3032807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Dunno,i never liked the 'glow effects' of their teams painting/highlighting style.It would be nice if someone can paint a marine with the new colour and the another one with the old and paste them for comparison though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3032897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Vallejo "Dark Green" is apparently comparable to DA green as well. I am hitting all the independent FLGS this afternoon to scoop up a few pots of DA and Snot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3032924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 My experience with vallejo dark green has been bad, sadly, unlke other vallejo paints the 2 Dark Green I bought had low pigment and bad coverage , I would need at least 3 layers of it over black , unlike the GW DA green that needs only two coats over black. It's one of the few GW colours I use, and I have a decent stock of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3032940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 I agree with Chaplain Lucifer, the Vallejo Game Color Dark Green (or Angel Green, whatever the heck it is called) is a very weak paint, only thing I've really been disappointed with from that paint line, along with what I feel is overly shininess of the "Boltgun Steel" (or whatever it is called). I stocked up on GW Boltgun Metal and Dark Angels Green though. I am going to try out the new metallics though, I've heard good things about those, but I've heard a lot that the new paints are REALLY matte, and I prefer a little more shine to my stuff, makes it seem more real to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3032961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Caliban Green base + Biel Tan Green shade DOES NOT equal Dark Angel Green. must go pick up those other two pots at the shop. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3033974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Brothers you have me confused.I dont know what to do now.Go buy the last DA green at its higher price or try an alt.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3034386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePope Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share Posted April 10, 2012 Has anyone got a marine painted up with the new paints yet and can plonk it next to and old one for a comparison? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3036044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shadow Guard Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Not sur eif anyone mentioned this previously in this thread, but in the latest white dwarf, next to the description of the starter paint set is a little box explanation of the plastic DA marine. It states that the new plastic marine contains shoulder pads with sculpted chapter and sqaud markings.... and the size looks pretty good fit unlike the metal shoulder pads which were too small in sclae to the plastic marines... has anyone actually seen the new plastic marines as yet? SG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3036835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sesslec Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I bought a set yesterday for a family member. The tactical shoulder pad is part of the main model. While the DA shoulder pad is one solid piece. This could be swapped out for a blank one, but would require green stuff as it is not hollow like normal pads. I've also managed to paint a DA with new paints, but Im a complete biff and can't load it up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3036861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I bought a set yesterday for a family member. The tactical shoulder pad is part of the main model. While the DA shoulder pad is one solid piece. This could be swapped out for a blank one, but would require green stuff as it is not hollow like normal pads. I've also managed to paint a DA with new paints, but Im a complete biff and can't load it up. So the policy seems to solidify:PAINT DARK ANGELS NOW WE COMMAND IT. Damn...... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3036981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sox Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I'm fairly new to the DA, so most of my army is primed. Anything that was painted is in Dettol awaiting the toothbrush! I bought as many pots of Bleached Bone and Gryphone Sepia as I could. Since I've lost my mind and am doing the all robed army, I thought it would be appropriate to stock up on these colours. As for green, I use the Vallejo German Uniform Green, as I want a lighter, greyer green power armour: http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq25/ConductorSam/P1180621.jpg That being said, I've used the new Hellion Green and Necron Compound to good effect. I do like the Armageddon Dust textured paint too. Suits my lazy basing needs perfectly. I do have an unopened, unused bottle of DA green sitting on my bench that will never be used.... :sick: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3037156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Some of my comments on the new paints in my WiP thread: One of the great things I did find in the new GW paint system: The bone line actually replicates two of the mixes that I usually made to paint bone layers! My scheme usually goes:1:1 mix Scorched Brown:Bestial Brown -> Bestial Brown -> 2:1 Bestial Brown:Bleached Bone -> 1:1 Bestial Brown:Bleached Brown -> Bleached Bone -> 1:1 Bleached Bone:Skull White In the new paint system, Zandri Dust is somewhere between the 2:1 Bestial:Bleached and 1:1 Bestial:Bleached, and waters down pretty well to a "Layer" consistency. Ushabti Bone is almost identical (or is identical) to Bleached Bone. Screaming Skull is almost a perfect match for 1:1 Bleached Bone:Skull White. So, all in all, very nice, it allows me to basically remove the mixing for three layers of the way I paint bone (I'll probably continue to mix the 1:1 Scorched:Bestial until I find a good stand in from the new line) and reduces it to me only having to paint 5 layers, all in all, I think this will actually save me quite a bit of time (as well as paint) - I find this very cool. Also on the paint front, I want to see some more examples of the 'Eavy Metal team painting new DA with the new colors, because from what I've seen in the new How to Paint (which I did buy, the videos on the DVD are actually pretty good, but all the tips, etc, are fairly basic), I do not like the way they have gone to a super-extreme highlight on the green. It doesn't look good, but I have yet to actually see any DA done with the green glaze to tone the extreme highlights down, so that may mitigate it somewhat. Captain sox, I thought the bone colored stuff may interest you if you are painting some bone colored robes. The "How to paint" DVD actually has a section on layering robes for DA on it that is decent, I think they skip the step of washing the recesses down with Argax Earthshade and they don't do any blending up or down between colors, but it gives good results just from the three colors being layered. Also: As far as the paints, I actually like them quite a bit, they don't take much watering down in the Layer paints and the Base paints are still smooth as well. I don't think they are quite as thick as the old Foundation paints, actually, but I haven't tried the entire line of Base paints either. TBH, the amount of colors is awesome, IMO, I think that only the Vallejo Model Color line has more paints (although I haven't actually checked that, so don't quote me) in more gradients. I need to get some smaller eye droppers to keep from wasting too much paint when mixing, if I need to. I am still somewhat concerned about the pretty solid matte finish these paints dry to, because I like a little bit of shine to my models, but that may be able to be fixed with a satin varnish finish. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3037284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sox Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Hmmmm..... I'll have to look into these. Thanks BB Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3037319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Turnbull Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Sorry if this discussion has already been instigated and I simply missed it. When comparing the Dark Angels picture on our new starter paint set to older Dark Angels, THEY LOOK BLUE! It has probably not escaped everyones attention that the models on the box, and the painting guide that comes with it, give the Dark Angels Caliban Green as the base coat, but do not add any layers. So... Is there any way we can use the new paints to look the same as our beloved Dark Angels green? What layers should we use after the base coat? Same question goes for our red boltguns and bleached bone robes. After playing the game for many many years, the newly painted models stick out like a sore thumb. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3039333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I picked up the new "How to paint" book they have out (I know, I know) - the DA in it looks pretty much the same as one done with the old paints really - not as shiny mind you (bonus in my opinion...) The DVD has a section on painting robes etc Slightly off topic, the new texture paints and glaze's look rather good, I'll be investing in some of them! Hmm, lets stick the Salamanders on the back burner and start DA... No, resist big man, resist... :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3039569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 There is a six color set that you can order from GW to achive the same effect as DA green. :-/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/249569-new-paints-new-takes-on-dark-angels/page/4/#findComment-3039782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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