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Heres a question for you guys to ponder, Would a successsor chapter bear the iconagraphy of its parent chapter? say an Disiciple of Caliban displaying the sword and wing of the Dark Angels? A Flesh Tearer the wing and blood drop? I know I have never seen a Ultramarine inverted omega on a Black Templar.....
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Heres a question for you guys to ponder, Would a successsor chapter bear the iconagraphy of its parent chapter? say an Disiciple of Caliban displaying the sword and wing of the Dark Angels? A Flesh Tearer the wing and blood drop? I know I have never seen a Ultramarine inverted omega on a Black Templar.....

 

There are Ultramarine-Us in the heraldry of quite a few of their successors, for example the Sons of Guilliman, Preators of Orpheus, Sons of Orar. The Black Templars, being IF successors, obviously have no Ultramarine heraldry.

 

As I said in a similar thread just a few weeks ago, I think it is completely feasible that the original Legion's heraldry features in the heraldry of a successor or that a successor may use their parent Legion's heraldry as honorific badges for individual marines or something like that.

Potentially. If a Chapter had particularly close ties (perhaps venerating them?) to their parent Chapter, they might use their badge as some kind of honour marking.

 

Also, if the two Chapters Battle brethren had fought together in a campaign they might share iconography as a mark of mutual respect. I seem to remember an IF successors army (inc. IF, CF, BT and I think even SD) where some of the IF wore templar crosses, a few of the BT had CF-style red hands, etc, etc.

 

Edit: Ninja'd, curse my slow typing! :D

Hey,

 

Would a successsor chapter bear the iconagraphy of its parent chapter?

 

Probably not.

 

Newbs would want to stress their independence - even if only for the benefit of the High Lords.

Therefore, iconography in the heraldry of a successor would likely be in homage to The Primarch.

If that icon can be a personal trademark different from the "parent" chapter's, why, so much the better.

 

 

Playa

The Black Templars, being IF successors, obviously have no Ultramarine heraldry.

sorry was late when I posted that had a dumb moment I shall submit to punishment....

 

I have a large collection of DA that I am "still" waiting to paint (trying to finish a couple of projects before I start)

but the successors are calling to me would my moulded detail and extra DA bits be ok to use? not the shoulder pads and banners but the little stuff?

 

I know my models paint em my way Im just curious how you guys felt on it

I really think it is absolutely fine, especially when it isn't shoulder pad chapter badges or banner tops and so on. Those helmets from the DA upgrade sprue with a small winged sword on the forehead, for example, or the rope things with that DA medallion would be perfectly normal on successor marines in my 40k universe, especially in a legion that has such close ties as the DA successors. After all, those guys still consider the DA chapter master their legion commander and constantly work together on hunting the Fallen.

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