carlos 187 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 im starting a new chapter the Imperial Dragons and was wondering if i can have there fortress monestery as a ramiles star fort ? as i dnt wnt a chapter planet but be a fleet based chapter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorns Padawan Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 No reason why you can't? It's your Chapter mate & I am sure with a bit of creativity you could come up with some half decent fluff as how they came to have one as their fotress monastary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3035446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlos 187 Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 i wnt them to be a crusading chapter who got the fortress through right of conquest but each company does there own thing similer to the raven guard i would like them to have the ultramarine geneseed though ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3035454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 It wouldn't be a problem... a number of chapters have them :) The Relictors are an example... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3035492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Andrew Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 there definitely isn't a fluff problem with having a star fort as a fortress monestary, but be aware that they are difficult to move and require significant fleet auxila to do so. This might limit your guys from moving the star fort except for really serious conflicts that will last years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3035544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Only well known and successful admirals, or Inquisitors, are entrusted with a Ramilies, as they can take centuries to build. That would be a real problem with a Space Marine Chapter getting one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3035569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric the Silvercoat Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Only well known and successful admirals, or Inquisitors, are entrusted with a Ramilies, as they can take centuries to build. That would be a real problem with a Space Marine Chapter getting one. A dying gift from an Inquisitor isn't a bad idea. Some Space Marine Chapters and Inquisitors have a great relationship. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3035572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Okay you can have one, the big question is and always will be ... what does having a huge battle fortress actually add to the character of the chapter? Is it necessary? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3035586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 If he plan to build a BFG fleet for his chapter, then yes, I guess. Cheers. P.S: Note that I have not the BFG books with me atm and don't know if really SM can field it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3035603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDragon66 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Heres my big question, - exactly how big is a Ramilies? Would it be big enough to act as a base of operations for an entire chapter? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3035637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Considering a battle barge is, what, a third the volume? I'd say so, yes. It'd be a bit of a squeeze, judging by comparison pictures on the net, but possible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3035641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 "Some Chapters possess no homeworld at all, and instead operate from mobile space fortresses. These gigantic craft contain sufficient accommodation, workshops, hangars, training areas and dock facilities for the entire Chapter and operate as a semi-mobile base for Chapter operations. While they may take any number of forms, fortress-monasteries are immensely powerful, with firepower equivalent to that of the might Ramilies Star Fortress in many respects. Additionally, they are not only mobile but warp-capable, and it is not unknown for some Space Marine Chapters to actually utilize a suitably modified Ramilies Star Fortress allocated to them for this express purpose. No Chapter possesses more than a single fortress, and as the base of operations for the entire Chapter they are guarded just as ferociously as a homeworld would be." (BFG 2010 Compendium) Crusade Chapters are generally the only ones with a Fortress-Monastery, so I say go for it! Crusade Space Marine fleets in BFG can indeed use a Fortress-Monastery, via the 2010 Compendium. Lastly, such a craft seems to be about 670 cubic kilometers in volume. That's roughly equivalent to 11km/11km/5.55km (l/w/h), if I remember how to math right. A Battle Barge clocks in at around 7.5km, for comparison. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3035644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDragon66 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 that answers that question, thanks Seahawk :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3035647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Inquisition involvement is becoming a bit cliche however, and far from necessary - these babies aren't quite priceless relics, they may take a while to build but they still form a "vital lynchpin in Imperial strategy" despite the Imperium having lost over twelve hundred just moving them. Why was the chapter created? Maybe they were created specifically to guard a particular planet/subsector on a 'temporary' (a few decades/centuries) basis and the High Lords decided to assign them a Ramilies that could subsequently be redeployed when the chapters duties there were done rather than expending the resources necessary to build a planetside Fortress Monastery. Maybe they were created to participate in a major crusade against a rebel/xenos sector that was envisioned to be a decades long affair and were assigned a Ramilies so that they could keep up with the front lines of the crusade whilst having their own repair facilities (giving them a mere battle barge for a fortress would deprive them of repair facilities, giving them a planet near the starting line would require longer supply lines and the chance of them getting bogged down in local affairs). Maybe they were a fleet based chapter who were given it as a gift by a Sector Governor who reasoned that the semi-mobile nature of the Fortress would likely tie them to his Sector, at least in the short term. As well as engendering good will. The Adeptus Mechanicus also makes use of them as mobile research facilities, maybe some calamity befell one such station and the AdMech bargained with the chapter: get us the contents of secure locker 48172-Zeta (located deep within the bowels of the station past several thousand unstable genetic test subjects, deranged former crew and scientists and state of the art defense servitors) and you can keep the Fortress for yourself.. Maybe they just found and claimed one of the 1200 that have been lost in the warp, or one of the half dozen that have fallen to Orks.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3035654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 The Adeptus Mechanicus also makes use of them as mobile research facilities, maybe some calamity befell one such station and the AdMech bargained with the chapter: get us the contents of secure locker 48172-Zeta (located deep within the bowels of the station past several thousand unstable genetic test subjects, deranged former crew and scientists and state of the art defense servitors) and you can keep the Fortress for yourself.. If that idea isn't going to used here, I'd be fully inclined to purloin it for myself. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3035656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDragon66 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 agreed, i love the idea of an AdMech research facility. that would go nicely with my AdMech Space Marine chapter :woot: Then it could be a total fleet based chapter to. have a permanent tow vehicle for the Ramilies accompanied by a whole AdMech/Space Marine fleet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3035827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Hunter Ydalir Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 If he plan to build a BFG fleet for his chapter, then yes, I guess. Has something terrible happened in the Liber since I left? Since when have models dictated the fluff? It's a recipe for disaster at the best of times. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3036877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
king tiger 101 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 It wouldn't be a problem... a number of chapters have them B) The Relictors are an example... For the relictors its more a case of had, not have Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250394-ramiles-star-fortress/#findComment-3036884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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