darth_giles Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Would anyone be really upset if someone used a Contemptor as a bog-standard Chaos Dreadnought? I like the kit much better than the crusty old Chaos Dreadnought metals, and the FW dreads look awful static. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250668-contemptor-as-dread/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah-a-nothepsis Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Just say as you deploy: "This is just a regular Dreadnought" If they say anything other than "ok" before a casual pick-up game, you shouldn't be playing those people in the first place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250668-contemptor-as-dread/#findComment-3038416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Thats exactly what i plan to do. I've got an unassembled Contemtor sitting on my desk just waiting to be converted and painted for my growing IW force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250668-contemptor-as-dread/#findComment-3038424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_giles Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 Well, the reason I asked is because I've seen some idiotic standards of WYSIWYG in the past few years, particularly with people arguing about where it ends and how far "counts as" can go. During 3rd Edition you could get by with "This figure is the sergeant, and that gold-colored sword is a power weapon. The silver-colored swords on the rest of the troopers are regular CCWs, and the Lascannon and Plasma Gun are what they are." From talking to people who played 4th and later, hearing, "That power weapon is gold and not blue, therefore I say its not WYSIWYG," was more common, especially at tournaments. I was trying to make sure that a degree of common sense had returned to the game before trying to make my force more characterful in a way that various players might not like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250668-contemptor-as-dread/#findComment-3038635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Those people with that idiotic a standard of WYSIWYG are the kind of people I wouldn't play if I were you. That's ridiculous. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250668-contemptor-as-dread/#findComment-3038667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 For non-tourney games I find that there is a lot of leeway when it comes to WYSIWYG. My advice, outside of tournaments. build your Contemptor and field it as a dread. If anyone has a fit over it then remind them that games are supposed to be fun. Chaos is Chaos and if he persists, play against other people in the future instead. If you intend to field it at a tourney, best check the local rules for modelling first as you may run into a few issues here and there. My 2 Kraks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250668-contemptor-as-dread/#findComment-3038704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colossus Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 "That power weapon is gold and not blue, therefore I say its not WYSIWYG," The worst I ever had was "that boltgun isn't painted boltgun metal, therefore it isn't WYSIWYG because boltguns have to be painted with boltgun metal". Mine were painted with Mithril Silver. He also told me my Flesh Tearers couldn't be used with the pdf Codex Blood Angels because they weren't painted as Blood Angels. He had a force of brass coloured Necrons. I've never left a game so quickly in my life. I always figure, if its modelled (not painted) correctly, then its fine. If an opponent says "this is x, and that is y" thats cool be me. So long as they don't try to claim bolters are lascannons or some such nonsense, I don't tend to worry. I'd be happy with a Contemptor fielded as a dread, I mean, its a Contemptor DREADNOUGHT. :) Just my two pence. And some rambling........................... EDIT: Typo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250668-contemptor-as-dread/#findComment-3038716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat33.1 Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I don't see how anybody could complain about using a Contemptor in place of a standard pattern dreadnought, for starters it's a larger target and will find it harder to gain a cover save so it works in their favour for game play. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250668-contemptor-as-dread/#findComment-3038851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 "That power weapon is gold and not blue, therefore I say its not WYSIWYG," The worst I ever had was "that boltgun isn't painted boltgun metal, therefore it isn't WYSIWYG because boltguns have to be painted with boltgun metal". Mine were painted with Mithril Silver. He also told me my Flesh Tearers couldn't be used with the pdf Codex Blood Angels because they weren't painted as Blood Angels. He had a force of brass coloured Necrons. I've never left a game so quickly in my life. I always figure, if its modelled (not painted) correctly, then its fine. If an opponent says "this is x, and that is y" thats cool be me. So long as they don't try to claim bolters are lascannons or some such nonsense, I don't tend to worry. I'd be happy with a Contemptor fielded as a dread, I mean, its a Contemptor DREADNOUGHT. :teehee: I hope by left you mean beat him with the BA Codex, then got out of there before the cops arrived. :D Did you tell him that he obviously wasn't using real necrons, as the codex clearly shows them silver colored? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250668-contemptor-as-dread/#findComment-3038983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colossus Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 "That power weapon is gold and not blue, therefore I say its not WYSIWYG," The worst I ever had was "that boltgun isn't painted boltgun metal, therefore it isn't WYSIWYG because boltguns have to be painted with boltgun metal". Mine were painted with Mithril Silver. He also told me my Flesh Tearers couldn't be used with the pdf Codex Blood Angels because they weren't painted as Blood Angels. He had a force of brass coloured Necrons. I've never left a game so quickly in my life. I always figure, if its modelled (not painted) correctly, then its fine. If an opponent says "this is x, and that is y" thats cool be me. So long as they don't try to claim bolters are lascannons or some such nonsense, I don't tend to worry. I'd be happy with a Contemptor fielded as a dread, I mean, its a Contemptor DREADNOUGHT. :D I hope by left you mean beat him with the BA Codex, then got out of there before the cops arrived. ;) Did you tell him that he obviously wasn't using real necrons, as the codex clearly shows them silver colored? I didn't pass my leadership test to assault him. I did tell him that however.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250668-contemptor-as-dread/#findComment-3038994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristoff Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 "That power weapon is gold and not blue, therefore I say its not WYSIWYG," The worst I ever had was "that boltgun isn't painted boltgun metal, therefore it isn't WYSIWYG because boltguns have to be painted with boltgun metal". Mine were painted with Mithril Silver. He also told me my Flesh Tearers couldn't be used with the pdf Codex Blood Angels because they weren't painted as Blood Angels. He had a force of brass coloured Necrons. I've never left a game so quickly in my life. I always figure, if its modelled (not painted) correctly, then its fine. If an opponent says "this is x, and that is y" thats cool be me. So long as they don't try to claim bolters are lascannons or some such nonsense, I don't tend to worry. I'd be happy with a Contemptor fielded as a dread, I mean, its a Contemptor DREADNOUGHT. :D Just my two pence. And some rambling........................... EDIT: Typo It would be times like this that I would regret not having a Chaos Dreadnought and long socks, or at least, the hard back BRB. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250668-contemptor-as-dread/#findComment-3039071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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