Blackmane Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Hi all Does anyone know if there was ever made a wolf guard pack marking for Grimnar. -Other than the one on Brother Ingeborg in How to paint space marines. Even though I play Ragnars company, I've decided to paint my arjac in the right colours(a stunt I can pull through by the use of armybadges which I use) Thanks in advance Cheers -Martin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I would think the new Arjac model has the correct markings? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3038567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackcat Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 That's right - the shoulder pad and other markings are sculpted so you just need to paint Arjac in right colours (black&white shoulder pad, etc.) You can also buy decals for Logan's company from FW and tomorrow GW will release their own decals.. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3038575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmane Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 Thank you guys. But it is the actual pack mark I need. I do everything in freehand and I am aware that Arjac is of Grimnars company(army badge ftw) My question is if they ever deviced a wolf guard pack mark for grimnars company other than that on brother ingeborg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3038598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Wolf Guard PACK markings would be the standard markings you see in the codex with the various units, as far as I'm aware. The only unique thing would be the Great Company markings, which is actually Russ' symbol due to Grimnar being the Great Wolf. But usual pack markings would apply. And obviously each Wolf Guard pack would maintain its own markings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3038600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmane Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 Actually each wolf lord has his own personal pack marking for his wolf guard. And there is only one wolf guard pack in each company. All wolf guard are put into this one large pack and split into smaller units in battle. So all of ragnars wolf guard should have his unique pack marking regardless of how many units or pack leaders( or lieutenants) you field. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3038711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Actually each wolf lord has his own personal pack marking for his wolf guard. And there is only one wolf guard pack in each company. All wolf guard are put into this one large pack and split into smaller units in battle. So all of ragnars wolf guard should have his unique pack marking regardless of how many units or pack leaders( or lieutenants) you field. Interesting...I don't recall this piece of fluff, is it in a codex somewhere or a White Dwarf? I remember in the 3rd ed Codex you took up to twenty Wolf Guard as one choice, whether they were a bodyguard or pack leaders but don't for the life of me remember reading them belonging to one pack. Thanks for the info. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3038713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat_Arcand Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Actually each wolf lord has his own personal pack marking for his wolf guard. And there is only one wolf guard pack in each company. All wolf guard are put into this one large pack and split into smaller units in battle. So all of ragnars wolf guard should have his unique pack marking regardless of how many units or pack leaders( or lieutenants) you field. Interesting...I don't recall this piece of fluff, is it in a codex somewhere or a White Dwarf? I remember in the 3rd ed Codex you took up to twenty Wolf Guard as one choice, whether they were a bodyguard or pack leaders but don't for the life of me remember reading them belonging to one pack. Thanks for the info. It's implied through the fluff entries for the Wolf Guard and Lone Wolves in the 5th Ed. C:SW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3038746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmane Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 I think it is the second edition codex. I shall quote it as soon as I get to my codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3038805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I think it is the second edition codex. I shall quote it as soon as I get to my codex. yes, 2nd Edition would be right, p.36. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3038809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmane Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 '...As a symbol of his staus a new pack marking is engraved upo the right shoulder pad of his power armour. Although this marking is unique to each great company, it is always rendered in yellow and black, the traditional colours of a Fenrisian noble.' SW codex 2nd pg 36 Also there's 3 pictures of WG shoulders with text beneath: one with: Alarik's WG one with: Haakon's WG one with: Ragnar's WG All in all I believe myself to know the rules of how to look as a SW fairly well, and just would like to know if 'Eavy metal ever deviced the pack marking of Grimnar. On pg 32 of the 2nd there's a pic of his GC totem where one can see just enough of the right shoulder to notice it's a WG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3038905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Blackmane, I don't recall ever seeing an "official" GW produced pack marking for Logan's Wolf Guard, so you should just be fine by picking one that you are happy with. As far as the fluff, I concur with your assessment that the Wolf Guard, no matter how many a Great Company has, would be organized as a single pack. The Wolf Guard are, in fact, the chosen pack-mates of the Wolf Lord. In the 2nd Edition codex, that was operationalized in the army list as a single pack of up to 20 models. In the current codex, a typical Wolf Lord can get up to 30 Wolf Guard, but they are "bought" as 3 separate units - this is a function of the army list only, to make the Wolf Guard fit into the game rules/play better. In fluff, all 30 would remain pack-mates of the Wolf Lord, and he would organize them however he saw fit for a specific battle - some would be his bodyguard, some would be assigned to lead other packs, and others would form smaller independent units. "The Wolf Guard The Wolf Guard are the elite warriors of the Great Company. They are the pack brothers of the Wolf Lord himself, his companions and most trusted friends. They have access to the Chapter's sacred Terminator suits as well as many personalised weapons. The Terminator suits are ancient artefacts, giant suits of the mightiest power armour, forged by the ancients and handed down from generation to generation. The honour of wearing one is much sought after by the warriors. A warrior can only become a Wolf Guard by performing an exceptional feat of heroism such as defeating overwhelming odds in hand-to-hand combat, storming an enemy position single-handed or slaying a particularly mighty foe. A Space Wolves Space Marine can become part of the Wolf Guard at any age; a Blood Claw is as eligible as a Long Fang. It is by his deeds that he is selected, not his age. They must have proved themselves to be the bravest of the brave, since to become a Wolf Guard is the highest honour the Chapter can bestow. In battle the Wolf Guard may form a small elite unit that acts as a bodyguard for the Wolf Lord, Priest or battle leader, or they are used to lead individual packs of Space Wolves, who welcome such heroes of the company into their ranks like long-lost brothers. A Wolf Guard has the pick of the weapons from the Space Wolves arsenal and is permitted to fight in whatever way suits him best; for most Wolf Guard this is in deadly hand-to-hand combat." --WD 246 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3038932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I think the nearest we have currently is in the WGTDA box, there is a single shoulder pad with Logan's old (before Great Wolf) emblem, as well as one for Harald Deathwolf and one for Ragnar - would be lovely if GW got round to giving us more than just lots of Ragnar's pads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3039339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Volker Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 That does mean that Grimnar's wolf guard pack markings are a yellow bear paw print on a black background, from the Arjac model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3039526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmane Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 I doubt it. I think that they just upscaled the wolf paw to get something fittingly for the man mountain. Either they haven't made one or the authors of How to paint space marines misinterpretated one of the packs 'eavy metal painted for the book. Just as they didn't realize that brother Ingeborg is not 'brother' but sister... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3039551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmane Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 In the mini and in the rules GW has tried to emphasise that he is am unique where, imo, in fluff he is first and foremost a Wolf guard meaning, that he should look like a wolf guard with a twist and not a IC. Btw I have a wip thread of him in the wip forum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3039581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 That does mean that Grimnar's wolf guard pack markings are a yellow bear paw print on a black background, from the Arjac model. No ONLY Arjac has that symbol because he is nocknamed the bear or spomething. Logan grimnars company BEFORE he became the great wolf is the symbol for of the wolf howling at the moon. Its in the codex. As to individual wolf guard packs I thinlk there maybe for to many for GW to give every one a individual symbol, I may be wrong of course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250680-pack-mark-of-grimnar/#findComment-3045676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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