KoRny Kenny Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Just thought I'd see what set up people have in terms of paints, glue, etc that aren't anywhere as pricey as Games Workshop. Anyone got any true gems to share? I ask out of curiosity and the fact that I'm starting Chaos after years of 40K dormancy and I'll be living opposite a hobbycraft in a few months time. So yes, paints, glues, sprays, what do you guys use that work just as good as GW stuff without the excessive price tag? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
AekoldHelbrass Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I can only suggest few things, hope it will be useful: 1. knife blades X-ACTO N11 can be bought on ebay in packs of 100, extremely cheap. 2. Revel Contacta with metal nose was much better than old GW plastic glue, but new GW plastic glue with metal nose may be quite good. 3. Filla-Glu black super glue is almost twice as cheap and holds much much better than GW superglue (GW comes in 5g bottle while Filla-Glu in 10g bottles) 4. Vallejo paints are a bit cheaper than GW and eyedropper bottle prevents drying out. 5. Green Stuff from Troll Trader comes in 36" rolls, 10 times cheaper than GW. 6. If you're planning to buy an airbrush - Vallejo undercoats will be much cheaper than most of spays on the market. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3039928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
king tiger 101 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Any tools are cheaper and better, seriously the gw blades and clippers are a major healthrisk Foundry and MP paints are cheaper, bigger pots, and in the case of foundry just simply better Revell plastic glue is fine Jot superglue I swear by Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3040016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker8 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 An age old question and one that often gets emotional as people have the favorite types, manufacturer, and places to get them just as they have types, manufacturers, and places to get them that they hate. Not all cheaper alteratives turn out to be worth what you paid for and some times more expensive versions may be better than you actually need. I operate on the theory that you're best bet is aim in the middle where what you need, and the quality of the product tend to coincide the best. Then you have to figure in the convienence and ease required to find what you want or need and decide how much that is worth. Is it worth saving a dollar if you spend 5 tracking down that cheaper item, or if you could of picked it up durring your daily travels for a dollar more. Same goes for ordering on line, You have to consider your time and how soon you need something as opposed to saving a few dollars. In my case I have multiple craft stores locally that I get my prefered brushes and misc painting tools I like, my modeling tools tools such as files, clamps, drill bits, etc come from Harbour Frieght which I have within a few miles but it's a special trip. My paint and misc hobby items I get from the FLGS which I make weekly trips to out of habit and has no problems getting what I want or need within a week. For specialty things like obsure tools and modeling supplies I have a local Model Train shop as a resource. The whole key is I know where I can get what I want when I need it and am willing to pay a bit more for being able to get them then instead of searching and waiting form them with the possibility of saving a small amount. Only the individual can make that decision. I want to leave this with one last thought. No matter what any one will try to tell you is the best the fact is it is only the best to them and others may think something else is the best. Use the opinion as a guide but do not discount a product or manufacturer out of hand. Take the time and try as many different things out and find what you find works best for you and go with that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3040244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Just thought I'd see what set up people have in terms of paints, glue, etc that aren't anywhere as pricey as Games Workshop. Anyone got any true gems to share? I ask out of curiosity and the fact that I'm starting Chaos after years of 40K dormancy and I'll be living opposite a hobbycraft in a few months time. So yes, paints, glues, sprays, what do you guys use that work just as good as GW stuff without the excessive price tag? Model train stores usually have a lot of the stuff that you'd use for cleaning and converting miniatures [blades, extendable knives, etc] and basing [small grade aggregate for basing, 'snow', 'grass', etc.] I can get 15 TIMES the amount of basing material for the same price GW Oz would charge me for it. So you'll 'only' get 7 times the amount, but still a pretty nice saving. You can even give some away to your buddies at that price - just stick it in a plastic jam jar and voila! Glue is often available from your 'Bunnings Warehouse', 'Home Depot' or whatever it is called in the UK. Superglue, plastic cement and wood glue [for basing] are all much cheaper than at GW. If you want to paint wargames miniatures, you have to use wargames miniatures paint, I am afraid. If you want it to look good. Vallejo copies GW's old line and I think it was cheaper and you got a better bottle. P3 gives you much more paint and was of superior quality to GW's old range. Coat d'arms gets paint from where GW used to get its paint made, and I think is cheaper.... With all these things, use the internet and do your sums. As striker8 says, no point saving $5 if it takes you an extra hour of walking/driving/etc. to save it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3040289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 For knives I prefer Poundland, they do a set with 4 large stanley knives and 4 small craft-like knives for.. well, a pound. I have to say I actually like the GW clippers, I've used cheaper ones - including from Hobbycraft, and found that none of them open far to cut sprue from any angle which I found to be a big nuisance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3040316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
king tiger 101 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 After seeing gw clippers SHATTER cutting plastic, I would never touch them, see that tip break off, fly across a shop and penetrate 2 starter boxes does not fill me with confidenceu Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3040318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caffeineated Chaos Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 for files I got a craftsman set, they work great, are cheaper than the ones at most hobby stores, and being craftsman you can replace them for free when they wear out. Oh and clippers, I just get cheap ones from the wal-mart craft and sewing sets Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3040347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhg033 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 if you want to stick with GW try other sellers. depending on the size of your order there are several places that offer 20-25% off RRP. these same places tend to stock the other ranges as well so you can easily have a look at them places i've tried are maelstrom games and dark sphere. ebay shops are worth a look to though may take more time to find them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3040562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellos05 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I bought a set of 10 files for bout £4 at toolstation. Theres every shape you could need ( round, straight, square, triangle, half moon) and better than GW's over priced £10 set of 3. I cant fault vallejo paints the bottles and price are way better. I got my hobby knife from Hobbycraft for about £5 with 10 spare blades. Tweezers I got off ebay ( set of 4 all shapes and sizes) for £3 plus postage. I got pva glue from a pound store. Blu tac is always helpful aswell for converting and finding a pose you like Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3040580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Like many others, I tend to weigh up the cost when buying stuff like craft knives etc, but I have found that Humbrol's liquid poly is good stuff for building plastic kits, as you can put on the exact amount of adhesive you need and not have any excess. For superglue etc, I just go to the nearest pound shop (of which Coventry has far too many :D ) and pick it up when I'm in town. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3040814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedPig Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 www.micro-mark.com Good catalog, decent range of tools, lots of different glues. I've been buying from them for about 20 years. They have a lot of train stuff, but it's all compatible with what we do. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3040933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtec407 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I buy most of my hobby supplies from Home Depot, Walmart, Hobbytown, and Sam Flax. Also, Xuron cutters = best plastic/sprue cutters on the planet. Never leave home without one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3041122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doshin Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Water based paints are to suck. Stop ruining your miniatures with Citadel and start buying tubes of oil and Model Master enamels. The initial investment is more but the paints will last forever. Also, the dogma that oil paints take ages to dry is only true if you don't know what you're doing. You should always mix the oil with enamel...then it will dry in a few hours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3052533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gop Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Basically just go to a large specialist chain hardware store. They should have most tools and more variety. Most other stuff is available off internet. Always checkout the FLGS as well as GW. The FLGS is competing and will probably have lower prices than GW on mostly the same things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3052728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I use Citadel paints. But I've never used any of their brushes, blades or tools. I find all of the latter to be overpriced (not that their paints aren't, but the paints do last a nice long time). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3054665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 - Vallejo Paints - Kolinsky Red Sable brushes (various brands) from my local art store - I get most of my hand tools from micromark.com or workshopheaven.com. Well maintained quality tools last a lifetime and is the cheapest in the long run. - I am currently branching into miniature precision jigs and power tools from proxxon.com. you can only be so accurate with hand tools. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/250805-cheap-equivalents/#findComment-3060266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.