Brother-Captain Stacius Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Ok, so knowing that flamer's ignore cover, as do other template weapon's, and it stating that you have to cover the most models possible, what occurs if you can only see 1 model from a unit? The rest are at coherency, and the only way to cover the most models is by not covering the sole model you can see? It seem's to me that this mean's you are now targeting model's that are out of line of sight, yet it also adhere's to the RAW. I was just wondering this as it has occured a few time's in game's, with deepstriking dread's etc. Also, would this apply to weapon's lke the Vindicaire's exitus rifle. He shot at a unit within range, well 1 model was, then the wound was allocated to a model out of range by at least 10 inche's. Is that possible? can you allocate to a model out of range? The other model was also out of sight too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251006-flamers-and-other-template-weapons-but-really-line-of-sig/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah-a-nothepsis Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Allocation has nothing to do with LoS, the vindicare can put wounds on people out of LoS and he just needs to see the unit targeted by the shot when he rolls the dice. Also, the flamer can cover people out of LoS, so long as the firing model can see the stuff on a single model required to start shooting at it. This is no different than a dread or something crashing through a wall to charge things outside of his LoS, so long as it is agreed that the wall is not impassable or somethin' Hope this helps. Remember 4th edition, when only models in LoS can die? That was brutal. Maybe you're thinking about that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251006-flamers-and-other-template-weapons-but-really-line-of-sig/#findComment-3042625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 The LoS issue was covered in this thread: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...mp;hl=templates It's locked because it devolved into an argument about walkers and pivoting, which doesn't have anything to do with your question :D. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251006-flamers-and-other-template-weapons-but-really-line-of-sig/#findComment-3042675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Also, would this apply to weapon's lke the Vindicaire's exitus rifle. He shot at a unit within range, well 1 model was, then the wound was allocated to a model out of range by at least 10 inche's. Is that possible? can you allocate to a model out of range? The other model was also out of sight too. Page 24, under REMOVE CASUALTIES, second paragraph. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251006-flamers-and-other-template-weapons-but-really-line-of-sig/#findComment-3042729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Stacius Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 Lol yeah I think I was thinking of 4th. Brutal but more realistic I felt. Many thanks for the replies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251006-flamers-and-other-template-weapons-but-really-line-of-sig/#findComment-3042779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Lol yeah I think I was thinking of 4th. Brutal but more realistic I felt. Many thanks for the replies. Well remember too, that units are not as static as our mini's are on the board. They are fluid as men move around and take cover, or change positions for a better firing arc. The same reasoning applies to why your own unit does not provide cover or block LOS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251006-flamers-and-other-template-weapons-but-really-line-of-sig/#findComment-3047095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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