Aegnor Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Is anyone aware of any fluff, or have any thoughts on how Techmarines are thought of, and dealt with, among the Unforgiven. Classically they're seen as a breed somewhat apart, with ties to Mars and its Machine-God none of their brothers have. Curious as to how this plays with the secretiveness and suspicion of the Unforgiven. Any known examples of Techmarines being in the Inner Circle, for instance? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Priest Haelaeif Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Somewhere in the codex it says that Techmarines are never inducted into the higher mysteries and never given any of the information that is the DA's secret, exactly for the reason you mentioned: they are a breed apart and have too strong connections to the AdMech to be trusted with this. So for Techmarines of the 1st Legion the DA are just a normal chapter with no secrets at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/#findComment-3047304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Pretty much what has been said above. That said, the MoTF is inducted into the Inner Circle, only into the lower secrets, but he does know something nonetheless. For the rest of them, they know loyalty to their Chapter, Primarch and Mars, much like other Chapters, however, I would think that their own loyalty and desire to not fail the Chapter is stronger than most brother Techmarines due to initial Marine training in the DA and Unforgiven Chapters that focuses on loyalty, non-failure of the Primarch, Caliban etc. Personally, I would like to see us only send a handful of Techmarines for training with more trained directly by our Techmarines back on the Rock so that we can control their training and what they know, plus, it gives a nice justification for access to toys that the AdMech has forgotten how to build :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/#findComment-3047309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Only the Master of the forge is Inner Circle. Rest of the techmarines are treated with usual aloofness, perhaps even more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/#findComment-3047310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pueriexdeus Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Hmmm,,, was there a Techmarine fighting side by side with the Lion in one of the HH books? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/#findComment-3047446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 Thanks all. My copies of all the DA codexes have been bought on eBay and are winging their way across the globe to me! ;). Annoying having to repurchase the 2nd Ed "Angels of Darkness" but have no idea where my first copy has gone to... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/#findComment-3047454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Hmmm,,, was there a Techmarine fighting side by side with the Lion in one of the HH books? Can't remember, but back then the Legion had (almost) nothing to hide. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/#findComment-3047467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kovash Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 If a Techmarine somehow learned of the secret but the Inner Circle feels he couldn't be trusted, I'm sure he would be dealt with somehow. Unfortunately, that most likely means he would be executed or sent to his death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/#findComment-3047498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Or turned into a lobotomised servitor. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/#findComment-3047513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Or turned into a lobotomised servitor. :D :lol: Somebody has to take Luther his meals. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/#findComment-3047627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Or turned into a lobotomised servitor. :lol: :D Somebody has to take Luther his meals. And wipe his...behind a couple of hours later.Knowing the secret without been invited to is not always good for career men. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/#findComment-3047707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kovash Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 To be honest, this thread is making me think of trying my hands at creating a Techmarine in TDA. Wait, that's a terrible idea. Maybe I'll just get a model and add some bone color to his armor. That would look a lot better. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/#findComment-3048304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 To be honest, this thread is making me think of trying my hands at creating a Techmarine in TDA. Wait, that's a terrible idea. Maybe I'll just get a model and add some bone color to his armor. That would look a lot better. ;) There was a rule for them in third ed codex wasnt there? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/#findComment-3048949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 Actually make sense that Techmarines might get their hands on such relics, or alternatively use non-standard/heavily customised or artificer armor that functions effectively as TDA. I've got a couple of non-GW "we changed these space "warrior" models just enough to scrape around copyright, for now" Techmarines who look quite a bit like their wearing variations of TDA. GW just doesn't do enough Techmarine variations. The ones I have, which I haven't got around to doing up are from HiTech Miniatures. They're even hooded. Link Link 2 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/#findComment-3048960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kovash Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Those HiTech models are very cool looking. Might be a good conversion model for a project down the road. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/#findComment-3049136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 Yeah, was thinking Iron Warrior or Iron Hand if not a techmarine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251367-techmarines-among-the-unforgiven/#findComment-3049286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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