Simo429 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 While you might think this is a Grey Knight book our Wolf Lord and his men feature heavily, my review is here hope you enjoy reading. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmande Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Just finished it myself; it really does the Wolves justice and I would easily recommend it despite the obvious focus on the Grey Knights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3051907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted May 2, 2012 Author Share Posted May 2, 2012 Just finished it myself; it really does the Wolves justice and I would easily recommend it despite the obvious focus on the Grey Knights. Yes I thought in the second half of the book the Wolves came across as the true heroes of 40K that they are.  They are one of the few chapters that always looks to do whats right rather than just what is easiest  also   It goes to prove that you don't mess with Logan, grey knights Grand Master, BOOOM, nothing compared to the Great Wolf  Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3052052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Just finished it myself; it really does the Wolves justice and I would easily recommend it despite the obvious focus on the Grey Knights. Yes I thought in the second half of the book the Wolves came across as the true heroes of 40K that they are.  They are one of the few chapters that always looks to do whats right rather than just what is easiest  also   It goes to prove that you don't mess with Logan, grey knights Grand Master, BOOOM, nothing compared to the Great Wolf   Could you clarify said incident? I'm curious on wheter or not to buy this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3052294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmande Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Spoilers, of course, but: Â Â Essentially, the Grey Knights arrive at Armageddon and Grimnar has them agree in front of the assembled Inquisitors there that since the people in hives such as Helsreach have not been exposed to the more daemonic aspect of the invaders or are even aware of Angron and should be spared, and the acting commander of the strike force, Captain Aurelian, tentatively agrees. After the fight, however, Aurelian dies and the Inquisitors vote to have the entire planet scrubbed anyways - though the main character implies that the Wolves have been secreting civilians off the planet. Â Then, as the Inquisition prepared to also take out the troop carriers full of soldiers who have seen the daemonic presence on the planet and offer to begin escorting ships along with the Grey Knight vessels. The wolves escort the ship, which is ultimately fired upon by the Grey Knight vessel in view of the Space Wolves, who weren't able to save the troops but can now claim that the Inquisition (and the Grey Knights who are being forced to go along with this) fired the first shot. After this the Space Wolves offer to escort the troop carriers en masse, and the Inquisition has no choice but to let it happen. Â From there, descriptions of entire planets being wiped out by GK Strike Cruisers or a small Mechanicus station for just seeing the 'tainted' ship pass are then followed by descriptions of Inquisitorial/more GK ships being destroyed/crippled for attempting to do the same. It starts this long and very tense 'cold war' between the Wolves and the Inquisition. At one point, an armistice is called but the Grey Knights (under the command of a certain Grandmaster - not Draigo, though) fire on Grimnar's ship and has him come to make terms. Instead, something really awesome happens and that's all I'll allow myself to type. In any case, the cold war continues. Â It finally concludes with the Inquisition with a huge fleet of ships (including the ENTIRE Red Hunters chapter and several Grey Knight ships, the latter of whom are sick of being a part of this spat between the Wolves and essentially the one Lord Inquisitor in charge of the whole deal. I won't spoil the ending, though, so you'll have to read it yourself. :) Â If you're a Space Wolf fan, then buy this book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3052405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I'm sure i read ADB say if he had written PB the wolves would not have been as awesome......  But if anything this book has the wolves at their most awesome  repeatedly militarily outwitting and defeating the Inquisition and GK and making them poo their pants   When Grimnar and his 3 man bodyguard have a show down with grand master, Inquisitor and hundred GK it does not go well for GK   Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3053524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishSmurf96 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I may not play space wolves but by god i love their storys! For example Battle for the Fang was just... wow... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3053539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 In my opinion  Emperors gift > BOFT  After reading it was so pumped up could not get to sleep as I basked in the glory and POWA of the Wolves Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3053573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 In my opinion  Emperors gift > BOFT  After reading it was so pumped up could not get to sleep as I basked in the glory and POWA of the Wolves I'm not sure that I agree that it was better but surprisingly I think   Bjorn was actually more hardcore in Emperors Gift showing down with the Grey Knights than in Battle of the fang against a Primarch.  Love him telling the little Jarl Grimnar to stop  Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3053574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I think   Bjorn was actually more hardcore in Emperors Gift showing down with the Grey Knights than in Battle of the fang against a Primarch.  Love him telling the little Jarl Grimnar to stop   Agreed but what happened to ulric's part originally he was the voice of reason? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3053577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 I think   Bjorn was actually more hardcore in Emperors Gift showing down with the Grey Knights than in Battle of the fang against a Primarch.  Love him telling the little Jarl Grimnar to stop   Agreed but what happened to ulric's part originally he was the voice of reason?  The only thing I remember about Ulric from Armageddon was him getting a nod of approval from Angron himself.  Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3053593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Just loving it! Haven't read it but read the spoilers rather foolishly and I must say it's awesome. Â Â After all, Grey Knights are just Space Marines like everyone else at the end of the day. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3053604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 The only thing I remember about Ulric from Armageddon was him getting a nod of approval from Angron himself.  The incident fell short of actual violence by the smallest of margins; Only the counsel of Ulrik the Slayer stayed Grimnars hand This sounds quite early on and not shown or face saving story invented later by the Inquistion not wanting people to know they people who disobey them can live   But there is certainly violence in armageddon system between them but the GK back down when their 3 Battle barges 5 interceptors are outgunned by the SW Fleet   Big spoiler  The scenes when Grimnar leads a boarding action on the GK Battleship and slays the Inquisitor on the bridge is just awesome  Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3053669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishSmurf96 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Bjorn as a character holds imho the most awesome line in BFTF "YOU KNOW NOTHING OF HATE" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3053818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 but what happened to ulric's part originally he was the voice of reason? huh weird, I was under the impression that Ulric wasn't a wolf priest back then so how can he be an influential voice of reason to Grimnar? compared to say a Wolf Priest of a Rune Priest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3053832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat_Arcand Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Ulrik has been a Wolf Priest longer than Grimnar has been an Astartes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3053882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Ulrik has been a Wolf Priest longer than Grimnar has been an Astartes. Ulric was still a wolf guard (under a different wolf lord) when the war happened so your point is? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3053905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Ulriks backstory has long needed a tardis to make sense.....If you do a search you find many threads with no definitive answer other than does not make sense maybe he was taken out for that reason Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3053934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 but what happened to ulric's part originally he was the voice of reason? huh weird, I was under the impression that Ulric wasn't a wolf priest back then so how can he be an influential voice of reason to Grimnar? compared to say a Wolf Priest of a Rune Priest. That was how I remember the story, Ulrik had the opportunity to become a wolf lord after his lord died but turned it down to be a Wolf Priest Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3053960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Chalk up another victory to Astartes > Inquisition. Logan Grimnar gave the High Lords a nice, tasty serving of his wolf ;) . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3053968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 your correct Simo/MG my guess GW mistake But just being kind to GW maybe he just at the right place and right time and he showed some of wisdom that was to make him a mentor of both Logan and Ragnar That was how I remember the story, Ulrik had the opportunity to become a wolf lord after his lord died but turned it down to be a Wolf Priest Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3054025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 2-0 to Wolves vs Witches in marines armour GK and TS Chalk up another victory to Astartes > Inquisition. Logan Grimnar gave the High Lords a nice, tasty serving of his wolf ;) . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3054030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Doesn't the V5 SW dex have the story as Ulric counseling Grimnar even though he hasn't become a Wolf Priest just yet? I don't have my books handy but I thought that was the story. Â There is one error in the timeline which A D-B says has been fixed in the second printing and that is the mention of the Badab War even though it is only 444M41. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3054128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Just looking back through old stuff in "Chaos Attacks" the original First war of Armageddon campaign book Ulrik is not mentioned  So it was the wolf guard ulrik fought Armageddons sulphurous shores.........but ulrik quoth "nay I am no master of strategy. I Nought but a simple warrior well raised in duty and honour." As he would not lead the brethen choose another but to honour Ulriks deeds and wisdom made him their wolf priest Ulrik fought like a thunderwolf that day and even earning himself the salute of the lord of the world eaters himself. eventually the imperium emerged victorious. The following day he was renamed slayer and elected by his fellow wolf guard as Krugers replacement at the head of the great company.....Ulrik instead accepted the rank of wolf priest.So he had been promoted to Wolf priest by the time the GK arrive only the counsel of Ulrik the slayer stayed grimnar's hand. Lest civil war consume the rest of the tortured planet belowWell thats true they did not fight on the planet looks like it only stayed for short while though and the "months of shame" campaign started for the GK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3054181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Agreed, although Ulrik was but a Wolf Guard during the Armageddon campaign, he would have been a Wolf Priest already in the immediate aftermath. Even if he was newly elevated to the position, his actions on Armageddon, and the fact that he'd been a Space Wolf for longer than Logan Grimnar, combined with being a Wolf Priest, means Logan would listen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251585-emperors-gift-review/#findComment-3054393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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