Seth84 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Hey, Basicly I'm working on a Flesh Tearer Army for about 1000 - 1500pts. I'm trying to work Seth into my army because well he's extremely fluffy, he's badass, I love his model plus it'd be rude not too. The problem is finding a place for him. Current idea was to give him a combat orientated Honour Guard, something like: Sanguinary Noviate Banner + Power Weapon Blood Champion Power Weapon + Infernus Pistol Power Weapon + Infernus Pistol = 225pts In a Rhino? The current status seems to be load out Honour Guard with Melta/Plasma/Flamers but not too keen on them. What do you guys think? Any suggestions very much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthOvious Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Hey, Basicly I'm working on a Flesh Tearer Army for about 1000 - 1500pts. I'm trying to work Seth into my army because well he's extremely fluffy, he's badass, I love his model plus it'd be rude not too. The problem is finding a place for him. Current idea was to give him a combat orientated Honour Guard, something like: Sanguinary Noviate Banner + Power Weapon Blood Champion Power Weapon + Infernus Pistol Power Weapon + Infernus Pistol = 225pts In a Rhino? If you really want to run that set-up then yes, I would put them in a Rhino. Because every model in your unit either has a power weapon or is the priest, not to mention the infernus pistols, so they cost a lot of points each, which means they will need protecting somehow. A Land Raider may be more appropiate as well but then you are using six models in a ten space land raider. As far as suggestions go, I think maybe two power weapons is enough. The Blood Champion may not be worth the upgrade really. So this will give you 2 models for room for casulaties before eating away at your sepcial weapons. The current status seems to be load out Honour Guard with Melta/Plasma/Flamers but not too keen on them.What do you guys think? Its because the squad has the ability to take four special weapons. I take 4 meltas in mine to pack a punch on a vehicle after deep striking. Other may feel that for killing troops plasma or flamers work better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodTzar Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I would prefer Melta-bombs / SS , CCW+BP/SS, Dual LC(orPW+IP), Hammer/IP and Banner setup ... you have 2 3+/4+ - 3++ saves before going on the juicy stuff. Totals up at 250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I'd change the infernus + power weapon to lightning claw + meltagun. Also, Heavy Flamer Razor over Rhino in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 For a close combat Honor Guard, I'd like to see 1 powerfist or thunder hammer. Also meltaguns are great additions on guys with a single lightning claw, a storm shield or a powerfist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 For a close combat Honor Guard, I'd like to see 1 powerfist or thunder hammer. Not sure in this case its required, what with Seth's Penile Compensation Combat Instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantic Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I used to run Seth Honour Guard Unit. Mine Went Seth Librarian Chaplain Honour Guard Champ 2 Power Weapons Power Fist Chapter Banner Land Raider Redeemer w/ MM I used to dump d3 attacks on Seth and laugh all the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth84 Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 Some good ideas here guy's cheers, was thinking of chucking a librarian with them but thought it might be too much of a points sink. Might play around with some of your suggestions. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Mojonir Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Had similar thoughts myself. Seth Honor Guard (3xPW, Banner, Bloodchamp) TLHF Razorback 425pts BA Codex Idaho Pattern imitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 If your unit's only six models, consider a razorback in place of a rhino. They're only 5 pts more base, same armor stats, there's just enough room to fit your squad and now you have covering fire. TLPlasLas seems to be the preferred razor load out, though. Plus considering the aggressive nature of the FT I don't think it would go amiss that the Chapter Master would want a gun on his transport. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantic Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Can't charge out of a razorback. Land Raider or Storm Raven all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Ive just packed him in a raider/raven with a RAS and theyve then ripped face, lots more bodies then HG and do about the same kills esp with a chappie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbreakable Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I run Seth's honor guard with 2 power weapons and 2 meltas in a flamerback. Fairly cheap and works pretty well at popping transports and assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminatorAM Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 the question is what kind of role does this unit play as part of a larger force? I've used him with HG in a razor in a 2000pnt list before and while I liked it, a 6 man unit doesn't make a great hammer type unit (death company in a FT army are so much better for this anyways) so they usually end up playing a back up role: adding their charge against a big combat unit that a RAS has already tied up in combat so the slower HG get to them how have the rest of you more experienced gamers used the unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantic Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 This is exactly how I would run that unit and the rest of the list I'd take with it. 1850 points * Honour Guard Blood Champion, 3x Bolt Pistol, Chapter Banner, Power Fist, 2x Power Weapon * Land Raider Redeemer Pintle Multi Melta * Sanguniary Novitiate Bolt Pistol + HQ + * Gabriel Seth * Librarian Blood Lance, Might of Heroes * Power Armour Bolt Pistol + Elites + * Chaplain * Power Armour Bolt Pistol * Sanguinary Priests * Sanguinary Priest * Power Armour Bolt Pistol, Chainsword * Sanguinary Priests * Sanguinary Priest * Power Armour Bolt Pistol, Chainsword + Troops + * Assault Squad 4x Assault Marines, Meltagun * Razorback Lascannon & Twin Linked Plasma Gun * Veteran Sergeant Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon * Assault Squad 4x Assault Marines, Meltagun * Razorback Lascannon & Twin Linked Plasma Gun * Veteran Sergeant Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon * Assault Squad 4x Assault Marines, Meltagun * Razorback Lascannon & Twin Linked Plasma Gun * Veteran Sergeant Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon * Assault Squad 4x Assault Marines, Meltagun * Razorback Twin Linked Assault Cannon * Veteran Sergeant Bolt Pistol, Power Fist * Assault Squad 4x Assault Marines, Meltagun * Razorback Twin Linked Assault Cannon * Veteran Sergeant Bolt Pistol, Power Fist I ran a version of this a few times with only 4 assault squads and adding 4 mm attack bikes. It did pretty well in a tournament and league. Seth, Chaplain, Librarian, and the Hguard in the Redeemer. Send it into the biggest bunch of infantry you can find and keep doing it till they are dead. The mobile razorback squads are heavy infantry killers and fast scoring units. I broke a mob of 30 ork boys with a pain boy and warboss with that squad charging out of a land raider. I believe I suffered one casualty. The only downside of running seth with an honour guard is that there are no chumps to eat wounds, which is why you need to protect them and support them with the Land Raider. Get them where you want them and put them to work and be prepared to watch some of them die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkkinite Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Just a side question... is it true that a "Blood Champion" cannot be equiped with a stormshield?? (I know regular HG can, but and blood champion is technically not a regular HG anymore) Please don't ask me why I want to do it, cuz I didn't I would anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 No, the Blood Champion can not be upgraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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