IronDragon66 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Why do Radical Inquisitors use demonhosts? - my initial guess is because they are extremly powerfull and the particular demon that is in the host loves nothing more than to track down other demons and destroy them? - So is an Inquisitor that uses a demon host just praying that the demons own desire to kill other demons for its own selfish, petty reasons will out weigh its desire to kill the inquisitor ? - From what I can tell in the warp demons are in constant conflict, competing against each other and killing each other for their own selfish demon reasons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Why do Radical Inquisitors use demonhosts?Their knowledge plus their power and talents. - So is an Inquisitor that uses a demon host just praying that the demons own desire to kill other demons for its own selfish, petty reasons will out weigh its desire to kill the inquisitor ?In most cases they bind them with powerful wards, though some do make pacts. - From what I can tell in the warp demons are in constant conflict, competing against each other and killing each other for their own selfish demon reasons.Yesssssssssssss! You should consider picking up the Eisenhorn series, there's some good stuff in there on one particular Daemon Host and the motives for using one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3053286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 You should consider picking up the Ravenor series, there's some good stuff in there on one particular Daemon Host and the motives for using one. Think you mean the Eisenhorn series; Ravenor's trilogy doesn't really deal much with Daemonhosts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3053303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Cherubael is a smug bastard. Eisenhorn is smugger. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3053325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 You should consider picking up the Ravenor series, there's some good stuff in there on one particular Daemon Host and the motives for using one. Think you mean the Eisenhorn series; Ravenor's trilogy doesn't really deal much with Daemonhosts. You are correct, I did mean the Eisenhorn series! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3053365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDragon66 Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 Yeah I am reading the Eisenhorn series now and just started the second book in the trilogy which is what brought all these questions about Demonhosts to mind. - It is definetly true that these demonhosts are extremley powerful and useful....but man talk about making a deal with the devil, pun very intended :lol: It just does not seem worth it to me. Plus it just seems totally hypocritical for an Inquisitor to be using such an ally. But I guess you could say the same thing about an Inquisitor who has and uses psychic powers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3053501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxx Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Keep reading. A large part of that book and the next involves the slippery slope towards radicalism. And from a fluff perspective, demon hosts in the game are no where near as awesome as in the nooks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3053533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Heretic Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Have you seen their stats? No inquisitor uses them ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3053538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Validar Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 The real reason why Radical Inquisitors employ demonhosts is that they are immensly powerful. Binding a demon is having a servant that can do things most mortals would be unwilling to do AND the ability to do it without breaking a sweat. Ofcourse there are different levels of demon power, but considering the risk of getting caught (and executed) or worse, the binding going wrong and getting an angry demon on your back, an Inquisitor would have to be god damn sure that this thing is going to give him a crazy powerful weapon he can use to further his own course (or, indeed, the cause of the Imperium by using the weapons of the enemy against them). Eisonhorn saga has some interresting points to that, but read the novels, we shouldn't spoil things there :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3053623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 "Cherubael. Kill it." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3053646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDragon66 Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 cool :P - I kind of feel like Eisenhorn.....when i started reading these books i was totally against the idea and use of demonhosts, but who knows....when im done i may have followed the path of Eisenhorn??? - It is a great series though...a million time better than the Inquisitor Wars books.....good god those were terrible. - I have even started to create the fluff for my own inquisitor, I would love to write some of my own fiction, but ibve never been a great writer. - I must say.....the Eisenhorn books are great ..... so much mystery and intrigue ..... normally i just love the 40k universe, this book i would love even if it wasnt 40k, its like a murder mystery novel....LAW & ORDER 40,000 LOL, the new series on TBS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3054070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 It would get banned in the US after three episodes, I think. I mean, they let Game of Thrones through, but they can barely handle "awkward sex" in Girls. Trying to maturely handle a mentally repulsive prostitute might be a little bit beyond the American audience. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3054075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 It would get banned in the US after three episodes, I think. I mean, they let Game of Thrones through, but they can barely handle "awkward sex" in Girls. Trying to maturely handle a mentally repulsive prostitute might be a little bit beyond the American audience. I don't think it would be much of an issue; after from her introduction Bequin's past as a prostitute doesn't really come up at all in the story. Actually, I always found Bequin's per-inquisitorial career to be kind of an odd thing about her background anyway. You'd think that being repulsive on an instinctual level would be a huge drawback in a profession like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3054106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDragon66 Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 Not really though....her clientle is probably not the pickiest of crowds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3054190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDragon66 Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 Ok.... - so this is probably a duh question but....could a demon use a "untouchable" as a host? - now they couldnt infest them through a psychic link, but could they infest them through touch? Does a demon have to have that psychic/warp link in order to maintain an infestation? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3054199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Ok.... - so this is probably a duh question but....could a demon use a "untouchable" as a host? - now they couldnt infest them through a psychic link, but could they infest them through touch? Does a demon have to have that psychic/warp link in order to maintain an infestation? Demons are creatures comprised purely of warp energy, and untouchable actively repulse the Warp in an area around them. A daemon can't even get into close physical proximity to an untouchable, let alone try to outright possess one. A daemonhost does seem to be a partial exception to the rule though, since being anchored into a physical body gives them a bit more connection to realspace, and even that just means they can actually get into physical contact with an untouchable, not use daemonic abilities on them. Also, the Ravenor books reveal that prolonged contact with a daemon (on the order of just about continuous exposure to a powerful warp entity over the course of months/years) can eventually burn out an untouchable. At that point they would presumably be open to infestation ... because they're no longer an untouchable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3054210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDragon66 Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 cool thanks....thats basically what i was thinking as well, but i wanted to bounce that question of the forum to confirm my suspicions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251792-demonhost-question/#findComment-3054211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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