Crimson Hawk Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 So after my Pre-Heresy Sons got postponed indefinitely, I decided on another idea- dun dun dun.... 40k Thousand Sons!!!!!!!!!1one. Okay, not that exciting. But it got the gears in my head turning, and I thought to myself, so what if a Sorcerer is trying to rebuild the Legion, what if he tries to induct new recruits, what then? Do they get Flesh Change'd instantly, or what? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 He would need three things to begin rebuilding the chapter; A source of Thousand Sons Geneseed An apothecarion to perform the implantation A source of recruits. Once he'd acquired the three of those, there's a high probability of all aspirants undergoing the Flesh Change instantly, and those who survive would only be able to resist it for a matter of time. The problems are that the Flesh Change basically happens at the whim of Tzeentch, and finding a source of geneseed. Theoretically, you could harvest it from an existing Sorcerer, but assuming his progenoids haven't been twisted or destroyed by Chaos and the Rubric, that's still only two new Marines per Sorcerer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/#findComment-3056624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Hawk Posted May 8, 2012 Author Share Posted May 8, 2012 Okay... This is my idea; Pre-Heresy, he was an Apothecary of the Pavoni, and after the move to the Planet of Sorcerers, he immediately began harvesting the geneseed as the flesh-change set in. When the legion split, he sided with Ahriman, and left, to pursue his own ends. He's somewhat (understatement of the year) obsessive about succeeding where Magnus failed, to cure the Flesh-Change without bargaining with Chaos, so he's a wee bit crazy as a result. His ultimate aim is to rebuild the Legion, and purify the geneseed. To achive this, he has studied many alien techniques- he has stolen tech from the Dark Eldar, and dissected Kroot and Thraxians. His views on the Warp are similar to the legion pre-heresy; it is a tool to be used to ones own ends, not venerated. To slow the onset of the flesh-change, every marine he recruits is fitted with neural implants, that block connection to the warp (as seen in A Thousand Sons btw). He knows that this is no solution, and spends nearly every day locked in his laboratory, looking for the answer Recruits are no issue, as in the Imperium, few have heard of the space marines, let alone the Thousand Sons, so infiltration into many cultures is not difficult- he has mortal agents on many worlds, waiting to spy a suitable recruit. I have more but little of it is relevant, and this isn't an Index Astartes article, so I'll leave it out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/#findComment-3056695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah-a-nothepsis Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Just because Tzeentch wanted the Thousand Sons, that doesn't mean he wants to mutate some off-Legion recruit. Something to think about. I'd venture to say that Thousand Sons geneseed implants would be, for the most part, successful. That is, of course, until they start dabbling. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/#findComment-3056701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 ^^ Then, Crimson Hawk, I'd say you have a viable army concept. Sounds pretty cool, actually. I can just imagine the Apothecary's laboratory with bubbling tubes and a humming mass spec in the background, hunched over a workbench with a microscope and a pair of needles trying to find The Answer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/#findComment-3056759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah-a-nothepsis Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 You should wait until June (Prometheus) Maybe it will give you some scientific ideas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/#findComment-3056779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Bah, no reason to wait for a new rulebook to start building cool models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/#findComment-3056981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah-a-nothepsis Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Well yeah.. I am modeling Thousand Sons stuff all the time but I don't even use them in game often. but I mean as far as apothecary type stuff goes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/#findComment-3057307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Hawk Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Guys and gals! First, thanks for all the support and input! Ah-na-nothepsis- The whole idea is they can't 'dabble' because they have neural implants that block their connection to the warp. Also, I will inevitably have to wait a few months, as I have a great repaint/expansion of my WFB Lizardmen underway, as well as a 250pnt Tau kill team, so as much as I would love to start immediately, I , well, can't. Furyou Miko- Thanks! That's exactly what I imagined. I'll probably swap between a Sorcerer and Fabulous Bill for his rules So, another question- how should I paint the armour? (a) Pre-Heresy scheme (:) Post-heresy with pre-heresy symbol © Plain old blue 'n gold Opinions please! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/#findComment-3057445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Hawk Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 Anybody there.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/#findComment-3060984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah-a-nothepsis Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 http://i.qkme.me/35huhv.jpg I digress. After painting their armor once already, I doubt they'd turn back to the red scheme... although I like the idea of them keeping the preheresy symbol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/#findComment-3061074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 One question. Why do they have to have KSons geneseed to rebuild the Legion? As long as they are indoctrinated in the ways of the KSons, does it matter where the implants came from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/#findComment-3061343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Because Geneseed makes the Chapter, and to be KSons they need a high number of Psykers relative to their Blunts, or their combat doctrines won't work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/#findComment-3061366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Why not just pick up recruits with psychic potential? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/#findComment-3061371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Because they're even harder to find than pure geneseed. Best bet would be to actually steal some loyalist seed. Say... from the Blood Ravens? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/#findComment-3061603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Hawk Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 Because they're even harder to find than pure geneseed. Best bet would be to actually steal some loyalist seed. Say... from the Blood Ravens? -_- Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252039-recruiting-new-marines/#findComment-3061721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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