aa.logan Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Reading the rumours about the new marine flyer, and in particular the comparisons between it and the land speeder, it got me thinking- Where would/will these likely fit into the Dark Angels- would they be crewed as tanks are, or does their fast, scoutish nature mean they'd be part of the Ravenwing? (I have a Storm Raven and didn't contemplate painting it anything than green as I'm trying to paint up a company of Dark Angels, but 'when' they arrive with the chapter, in terms off fluff if not the next Codex, where do you all think they would go?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252101-the-storm-talon-and-for-that-matter-the-storm-eagle-and-st/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG42 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 If the Stormtalon is true, 6 inches from my Deathwing command sqd for heavy firepower. Stormraven all depends on where they classify it. GK is fast attack and BA is Heavy presuming we get it in our new dex at all. FW stormeagle unless it makes it into a dex and more info on fliers not gonna guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252101-the-storm-talon-and-for-that-matter-the-storm-eagle-and-st/#findComment-3057431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 We can't really know for sure. The Storm Talon is a "gunship", so If you are talking about overall organization within the Chapter, they would technically fall in where drop pods and thunderhawks do - fleet command. However, we'll just have to see where GW places them. There good be an argument made for them to be in RW colors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252101-the-storm-talon-and-for-that-matter-the-storm-eagle-and-st/#findComment-3057435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I play a sucessor nowadays so colour dilemma doesn't affect me. I would say that the Storm-birdie belongs to the armoury like other vehicles (I see it more of a Ground asset than fleet asset) so it should be green. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252101-the-storm-talon-and-for-that-matter-the-storm-eagle-and-st/#findComment-3057439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I play a sucessor nowadays so colour dilemma doesn't affect me. I would say that the Storm-birdie belongs to the armoury like other vehicles (I see it more of a Ground asset than fleet asset) so it should be green. Ah yea, that is correct - BA Stormraven Gunships fall under Armoury, my bad. Green regardless of Fleet Command or Armoury though. I'd put the Storm Talon there... but like I said, GW could shake it up. I feel the Storm Eagle on the other hand might fall under Fleet Command. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252101-the-storm-talon-and-for-that-matter-the-storm-eagle-and-st/#findComment-3057443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alys Dwr Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Assuming this rumor is true... I think they'll be green on the whole, part of the main DA armoury. I think their primary role is going to be in supporting other deep striking units but think that adding 'pinning' to their shots would make this a very useful tool indeed. But that's another story... anyway, i don't think they'll survive on the table long enough to provide any substantial firepower past the first couple of turns. Now i can imagine that the Ravenwing would maintain their own supply of these to give some heavy support to bikers in sticky situations behind enemy lines, and think this could be quite fluffy. The Deathwing though - probably none of their own. Veterans are too valuable to be put in a metal box with less armour than their TDA suits. Instead i can see them being deployed by the armoury to support DW drop sites and then (fluff wise) being ordered to withdraw/redeploy before any scary fallen types are encountered. Game wise, this role could be very useful for increasing the survivability of CC DW squads assuming the new codex doesn't allow for assaulting on the turn they arrive. Al Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252101-the-storm-talon-and-for-that-matter-the-storm-eagle-and-st/#findComment-3057485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 For the arguments shake,angels of darkness depicts a thunderhawk been painted in deathwing colours because it was presumably attached to said company. I believe utility vehicles are part of the armory but the deathwing is an exception since they use terminator transports too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252101-the-storm-talon-and-for-that-matter-the-storm-eagle-and-st/#findComment-3057835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 For the arguments shake,angels of darkness depicts a thunderhawk been painted in deathwing colours because it was presumably attached to said company.I believe utility vehicles are part of the armory but the deathwing is an exception since they use terminator transports too. And for further argument sake, the Deathwing and Ravenwing both have there own strike cruisers... could armory vehicles attached to either of these cruisers also be painted to represent their service to them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252101-the-storm-talon-and-for-that-matter-the-storm-eagle-and-st/#findComment-3057986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akatriel Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 They have their own? Didn´t heard of that before, would you mind to elaborate? It´s in a novel? On the matter of flying assets, I think that they would be operated by the Fleet, as is the norm with the Thunderhawk. The Storm Talon we´ll se if someday we get a description, but, since it appears to be mainly a CAS vehicle, essentialy a flying tank, maybe it belongs to the armory. However, if it´s designed to escort thunderhawks and storm eagles, it could be used mainly by the fleet. In any case, dark green, I see it as too heavy and armored to really fit the Ravenwing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252101-the-storm-talon-and-for-that-matter-the-storm-eagle-and-st/#findComment-3058105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I was actually just going by this - http://www.thedarkfortress.co.uk/tactica_r...ngels_fleet.htm Though now that I see there is no source, I'm not so sure. Plus, The Tower of Angels is the Rock as I understand it - the Fotress Monastery. Maybe Isiah can shed some light on where that info stems from. Brother Bish has different names, but the same idea of DW and RW colored cruisers - http://www.bishco-post.com/Dark_Angels/BFG_Fleet.html And both have different names form those source on lexicanum... Maybe both are simply fan fiction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252101-the-storm-talon-and-for-that-matter-the-storm-eagle-and-st/#findComment-3058137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Though now that I see there is no source, I'm not so sure. Plus, The Tower of Angels is the Rock as I understand it - the Fotress Monastery. Yup, i cant understand either why it is listed in the battle barges.It should be on a category of its own. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252101-the-storm-talon-and-for-that-matter-the-storm-eagle-and-st/#findComment-3058197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Pre and during the Heresy, the Dark Angels Fortress Monastery itself is named Aldurukh, or "The Rock of Eternity". After the destruction of Caliban, we are left with the following account: http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/Tower.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252101-the-storm-talon-and-for-that-matter-the-storm-eagle-and-st/#findComment-3058382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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