Stormshadow Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I haven’t read any 40k books and think it is about time. I am only interested in the once concerning Gray knights and the Inquisition. Does anyone know of one or more books that fit my criteria? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/The-Inquisition http://www.blacklibrary.com/Home/Search-Re...lue=grey+knight Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3057961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormshadow Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Thank you :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3057964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmande Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 DO: Read the first Grey Knight book from Ben Counter's Grey Knight trilogy DO NOT: Read the rest of the books in the trilogy. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3057999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 /seconded. The second is passable, not great. The third has nothing to do with the Grey Knights. Not even the protagonist... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3058028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Eisenhorn is my favourite book regarding the inquisiton. Ravanor is also good but not as good as Eisenhorn (both are trilogys). Currently reading emperors gift and its pretty good so far (half way through). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3058055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valtonis Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 add The Emperor's Gift to that list, just finished reading it and it is really good, ADB does it again Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3058085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circus Nurgling Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 DO: Read the first Grey Knight book from Ben Counter's Grey Knight trilogy DO NOT: Read the rest of the books in the trilogy. ;) Can't disagree more. They're a couple of my favorite pieces of 40k literature. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3058162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 The last is more like a Conan novel, and has nothing to do with the Grey Knights... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3058180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 The last is more like a Conan novel, and has nothing to do with the Grey Knights... Everyone has their opinion. I like the third as it take a Grey Knight from his comfort zone, punishes him, tortures him and shows why Grey Knights don't turn to chaos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3058187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewm9 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 The last is more like a Conan novel, and has nothing to do with the Grey Knights... Everyone has their opinion. I like the third as it take a Grey Knight from his comfort zone, punishes him, tortures him and shows why Grey Knights don't turn to chaos. I thought quite the opposite myself. If someone had not rescued him so to speak it showed exactly how a Grey Knight can fall to Chaos. I'd be more explicit, but I can't get the forum software to insert spoiler notes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3058190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 You can do spoilers like this: In the excellent novel The Purifiers: An Eternal Crusade, CMID's quest is finally ended. [spoiler]In the excellent novel [i]The Purifiers: An Eternal Crusade[/i], CMID's quest is finally ended.[/spoiler] On the main topic, I would definitely second The Emperor's Gift. In my opinion it's pretty much the Grey Knight book, in terms of who they are and how they work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3058204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 aye, the previous trilogy of Ben Counter grey knight books really doesn't fit the current fluff. ADB is a stunning author and he really did well with Emperor's Gift :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3058214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I like the third as it take a Grey Knight from his comfort zone, punishes him, tortures him and shows why Grey Knights don't turn to chaos. What like all the time he was spilling blood for the blood god? That's wasn't Chaos worship in any way! Of course not! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3058279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormshadow Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 Thanks a lot every one! Any suggestions in what order I should read the books? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3058541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 1st: Eisenhorn Trilogy 2nd: The Emperor's Gift 3rd: The rest... Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3058554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oiad Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 The Grey Knights also play a role in the novel, The Killing Ground by Graham McNeill - a book not on that Black Library list. I have to admit I haven't yet had a chance to read The Prisoner, also by McNeill . Can anyone give me a heads up on how good it is? The outline for the plot sounds very promising. Plus it's McNeill writing GKs again... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3058981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 The Alien Beast Within is a good short story about a Callidus, while Army of One does the same for an Eversor (although Army of One is part of the Black Library's "15 years of publications" anthology). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3059092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WimvH Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 What like all the time he was spilling blood for the blood god? That's wasn't Chaos worship in any way! Of course not! ;) I think as he wasn't doing it willingly or out of rage, I think it - indeed - does not count as worship or falling to Chaos. He was made to do it... In order to worship Chaos, you need to embrace it and live by it's rules. He never did! Otherwise it would be pointless to maintain any kind of fighting force in the Imperium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3059184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Oh he was doing it willingly. :D he lost himself for a while to the blood rage. He knew it was *exactly* what Khorne wanted. What Alaric should have done was died, without spilling any blood. Everyone Alaric killed, was a tribute to Khorne. That's what those worlds were set up for. Blood for the Blood God. It's still a book with nothing to do with the Grey Knights. I mean, at the end, he's no longer able to go back to being a Grey Knight... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3059348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WimvH Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Oh he was doing it willingly. :D Hmmmm, I tend to disagree, he was on a deamon world, dedicated to Khorne. You don't survive such places by handing out candy... Also, if you take that line of thinking any further, then giving in and getting yourself killed would not help "as Khorne does not care whence the blood flows". The only act of defiance there is, in the lands of the blood god, is survival. Sure all deaths you cause are for the greater glory of Chaos, but your survival "in itself" is a blasphemy! As such, I still maintain Alaric did not fall to Chaos. In the end he escaped and did not stay to become an adept or rise in the ranks of that deamon world. Along the way he had to compromise his morals, but these compromises were dictated by the circumstances, and not entirely out of free will. It's still a book with nothing to do with the Grey Knights. I mean, at the end, he's no longer able to go back to being a Grey Knight... True, true. Guess they don't really tolerate any radicals, do they :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3059369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 True strength and purity, the sort that the Grey Knights claim, would have protected him from being "forced" to do anything. In other words, he was flawed, there was a touch of corruption in his soul. Even if that was just the fear of his own death. I haven't read the book itself, but if he was dedicating his kills to the Blood God, then that's a form of worship. You can't "force" someone to do such a thing. Even if you destroy their mind and control their bodies, you can't force them to act in the name of anything - and that's not Khorne's thing. He hates mental trickery like puppeteering. If Alaric - or anyone, for that matter - was 'spilling blood for the blood god' as GL puts it then that person is worshipping khorne through their very actions. Sometimes, the only way to stay pure and uncorrupted is to die, which is what a true Grey Knight would have done. It's what a Battle Sister would have done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3059426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WimvH Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Hmmmmm, again, HE did not dedicate them to Khorne... The fact they were dedicated to Khorne comes from the fact they occured (one might say "full stop" as Khorne is the blood god). If we take this line of thinking, the imperium should stop fighting and give in, this way sacrificing itself and ultimately strengthening Chaos even more. Agreed this, then, points to the fact the struggle against Chaos is ultimately hopeless, and the Imperium's draconian measures against it at best hypocritical. Then again Chaos IS the materialisation of human basic emotions and drives, so I guess a human empire is rather ill placed to be the final bullwark against it. ...and all the more these tragic heroes of the 41st century are heroic, and the 40K setting is brilliant :blink: At least in my (very radical) opinion!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3059437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Grey Knights are pragmatic and believe in vitory at any cost. A battle sister may well be willing to die rather than tarnih her morality, however a Grey Knight will do anything and everything to get the job done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3059441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 They occured in a specific place, for a specific purpose. Step into this arena. Anything that dies *here* is in tribute to Khorne. Oh ok, I'll just kill everything to stay alive. Oh I've got to go back the next day? Nope, I won't try to escape, even if that means I'll most likely die. I'll stay here *for months* entering this arena, dedicated to a Choas Good, killing for his enjoyment. And no, no radicals in the GK in the slighest! That's heresy! Well, it was. Until Ward decided that the GK would spill innocent Blood and coverthemseves in Blood. To stop a Blood Ritual of the Blood God... We might as well see GKs using Daemonweapons now. Oh Wait... WARD!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252143-black-library-books-on-grey-knights-and-the-inquisition/#findComment-3059469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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