Artein Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Ok, we know what Abaddon said, Horus was weak and so on. We know that they're no longer Sons of Horus. Then why do they still use the Eye of Horus in their symbol? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252223-black-legion-symbol/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 That's a good question. :angry: I guess changing name and color was enough. They can't deny their whole identity, because, to be fair, those guys killed the Emperor, Sanguinius (ye, well, Horus) and Rogal Dorn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252223-black-legion-symbol/#findComment-3059060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I think it helps to remind the other traitor legions that they are 'the first amongst equals'. Kind of similar to the EC wearing the Aquila. Maybe it also has something to do with the title of 'Warmaster', first Horus and now Abbaddon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252223-black-legion-symbol/#findComment-3059187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 It is a puzzling thing that is. In my opinion, I would have to go with that the Black Legion does not associate the eight-pointed star with an eye in it as the Eye of Horus where the Imperium does. Going by the HH books, the Eye of Horus seems to be a red slitted eye that is usually held by an eagle. I can't think of any HH-era source that describes it as part of an eight-pointed star. For all we know, it could be the Eye of Abaddon. Or even the Eye of Chaos. Or it could be the one piece of homage they actually pay to their deceased Primarch. Or, it could be as kizzdougs said. Or it could be some really random off-the-wall fact that GW will print in two years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252223-black-legion-symbol/#findComment-3059227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Originally, it was the Eye of Terra, unblinking and always watching. Sanguinius wore it too. I know it started as a representation of Horus's position as Warmaster, so why Sangy wore it is beyond me. From what I can tell, after Horus went over the deep end, it became his personal heraldry, and a symbol for his Legion to be proud of. Hopefully it'll get mentioned later on. Edit: Clarity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252223-black-legion-symbol/#findComment-3059253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biaz Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 While Abaddon did say "Horus was weak, Horus was a fool", the Black Legion changed their name and painted their armour black due to their failure, not Horus'. Abaddon hates Horus because he loved him, and he (along with many other Legionaries, I'm sure) feels abandoned because Horus died, and "left" them. But Horus united the Traitor Legions, begun the war against the False Emperor, and slew not only the Emperor but Sanguinius too. There's nothing to be ashamed of there. Its the shame of fleeing Terra when the Emperor lay crippled and the world was practically theirs that they're so desperately trying to make up for. The shame of that failure is why they now throw themselves into the thickest and most dangerous fights, in an attempt to once again bring the Empire to its knees and restore their morale and the belief that they are still greatest Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252223-black-legion-symbol/#findComment-3059278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malatox Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 1000Heathens beat me to it. It was the eye of Terra. If Abaddon still believes he should rule Terra, then why not wear it? Malatox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252223-black-legion-symbol/#findComment-3059307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colossus Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Originally, it was the Eye of Terra, unblinking and always watching. Sanguinius wore it too. I know it started as a representation of Horus's position as Warmaster, so why Sangy wore it is beyond me. From what I can tell, after Horus went over the deep end, it became his personal heraldry, and a symbol for his Legion to be proud of. Hopefully it'll get mentioned later on. Edit: Clarity. I thought sanguinus's one was actually a blood drop? Or am I forgetting it being described in the HH books? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252223-black-legion-symbol/#findComment-3059314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Nope, his description agreed with the art books. He wore the Eye on his chestplate. I would go with he was showing his support for his brother instead of some of the other Primarchs who went "It should have been me." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252223-black-legion-symbol/#findComment-3059433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colossus Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Ah fair enough, I prefer to think its a blood drop. But that's my personal opinion. And clearly not canon. Haha....... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252223-black-legion-symbol/#findComment-3059483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortysl Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 That's a good question. :confused: I guess changing name and color was enough. They can't deny their whole identity, because, to be fair, those guys killed the Emperor, Sanguinius (ye, well, Horus) and Rogal Dorn. I'm sorry, i know this is off topic, but the Sons of Horus killed Rogal Dorn? May i ask how/when? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252223-black-legion-symbol/#findComment-3059490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 If I recall correctly, he died attacking the 1st Black Crusade fleet on a Despoiler-class battleship. I think it is generally assumed that the ship was under Black Legion control. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252223-black-legion-symbol/#findComment-3059512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artein Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 I believe it was Rogal Dorn making the last stand aboard this ship, or going down with it, or maybe even blowing it up by himself and then going down with it.... Is there any source on this event? Anything more than Rogal Dorn dying? And the eye in the symbol.... I hope ADB will mention it somehow in his Rise of the Warmaster series. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252223-black-legion-symbol/#findComment-3059773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Woops. Wrong topic. Sorry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252223-black-legion-symbol/#findComment-3059816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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