Smallboy Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Hi guys, I'm looking into doing a Space Wolf army (1500 points) but using the standard SM Codex, anyone else here done it? Is it easy enough for Grey Hunters to stand as Tac Squads and Blood Claws to be Assault Marines? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 nice job i was a wolf back in rt days when thats exactly what we were grey marines with a lot of sauce Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3060160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Well, I can't say I've ever done this, nor heard of anyone doing this. I would have to ask why, though. There's no benefit in either fluff or gaming that I can see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3060161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Can I ask Why? nice job i was a wolf back in rt days when thats exactly what we were grey marines with a lot of sauce We did have our own list though...... in Book of the Astronomican Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3060238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallboy Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 I'm doing this because I want to eventually do every Loyalist Chapter, each having different traits not a different codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3060295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Why don't you want to use the codex, though? Why are the traits preferrable? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3060317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallboy Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 I dont believe in GW's habbit of "here's our new army these are much harder than anyone else out there" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3060321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I dont believe in GW's habbit of "here's our new army these are much harder than anyone else out there" If you were going by that rule you'd be doing grey knight anyway.If you restricting yourself to the Codex Marine Codex then why not just create a chapter of your own? You'd lose the charactor of the Wolves by having tac squads and the like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3060370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallboy Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 I'll be using the models just not the rules Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3060373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbringer Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Just use the Space Wolves Codex and just restrict what you use to keep you happy ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3060382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevon Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Grey Hunters as Tacts, Sky Claws as Assault and Long Fangs as Dev. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3060505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I dont believe in GW's habbit of "here's our new army these are much harder than anyone else out there" New?? Space Wolves?? Are you lost? As for conforming SW packs to SM structure, there's no point. The reason for the separate codex is because SWs are structured completely different. Use the models; make your SM army. They simply won't be Wolves in any capacity other than looks, so it doesn't matter what we say. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3060593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 If you want a older codex there are some earlier versions of the C:SW:-) less powerful correct structure Will you be upgrading to latest most powerful codex when C:SM 6th ed comes out? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3060666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdeptusDavidus Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hi guys, I'm looking into doing a Space Wolf army (1500 points) but using the standard SM Codex, anyone else here done it? Is it easy enough for Grey Hunters to stand as Tac Squads and Blood Claws to be Assault Marines? Your models, your army, do as you see fit. ^_^ I believe that DV8 had a Space Wolves army using C:SM at one point, before the current Wolves 'dex was released. If I recall correctly, though, it mostly used standard Space Marine models, with the occasional wolf tail added here and there, as the current models were not available at the time. I may be misremembering, of course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3061061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hi guys, I'm looking into doing a Space Wolf army (1500 points) but using the standard SM Codex, anyone else here done it? Is it easy enough for Grey Hunters to stand as Tac Squads and Blood Claws to be Assault Marines? Your models, your army, do as you see fit. ;) I believe that DV8 had a Space Wolves army using C:SM at one point, before the current Wolves 'dex was released. If I recall correctly, though, it mostly used standard Space Marine models, with the occasional wolf tail added here and there, as the current models were not available at the time. I may be misremembering, of course. You are correct. I used Pedro Kantor, Sternguard, and Tactical Squads in Rhinos to represent massed Grey Hunters, expecting that I would be able to use lots of Bolter-armed marines and Rhinos with the new Space Wolves Codex (the old book sucked in 5th Ed, and C:BA and C:GK did not exist at this point, making C:SM one of the more powerful books at the time). Transitioning the army from C:SM to C:SW was incredibly easy, and just required the inclusion of some Scouts and Land Speeders to round out the army. I will eventually be looking to add more feral and barbaric looking Space Wolves to my Great Company though. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3061147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdeptusDavidus Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Well, for what it's worth (or not worth), I thought the tidier, sort of minimalist look to your light-grey C:SM Wolves was fantastic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3061254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Hi guys, I'm looking into doing a Space Wolf army (1500 points) but using the standard SM Codex, anyone else here done it? Is it easy enough for Grey Hunters to stand as Tac Squads and Blood Claws to be Assault Marines? Your models, your army, do as you see fit. B) I believe that DV8 had a Space Wolves army using C:SM at one point, before the current Wolves 'dex was released. If I recall correctly, though, it mostly used standard Space Marine models, with the occasional wolf tail added here and there, as the current models were not available at the time. I may be misremembering, of course. You are correct. I used Pedro Kantor, Sternguard, and Tactical Squads in Rhinos to represent massed Grey Hunters, expecting that I would be able to use lots of Bolter-armed marines and Rhinos with the new Space Wolves Codex (the old book sucked in 5th Ed, and C:BA and C:GK did not exist at this point, making C:SM one of the more powerful books at the time). Transitioning the army from C:SM to C:SW was incredibly easy, and just required the inclusion of some Scouts and Land Speeders to round out the army. I will eventually be looking to add more feral and barbaric looking Space Wolves to my Great Company though. DV8 Woo hoo. Now those I want to see for certain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3061537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I just don't understand why? GH are far (FAR) better than regular tac marines. And BC are probably better than assault marines (especially if led by a Wolf Priest or Wolf Guard) (Blood Angels are better, but that's not C:SM either). But, it's your army...go forth and blaspheme away, heretic!! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3064258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 if you want to use a less powerful dex you should use CSM rather than C:SM You can get the BP,BG,CS equipment counter attack At least the list will have the right feel using tac marines as GH is just wrong they are puny in CC and just dont fit the fluff or style of the wolves you might as well use necrons ....... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3064306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcielago Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I understand that you're aiming to make every legion army...But wouldn't you RATHER have the codex-specific legions using their won books??? I'm not trying to be mean, but it sounds like all you want is various shades of space marines all under the same book, which doesn't make any sense to me. If anything, you should take the legion specific codexes and use them to your advantage. Build marines that can be used as either Blood Angels or regular Space Marines so that you have DOUBLE tactical versatility instead of limiting yourself to having everything using a single codex. Take for example my army: Night Lords (AVE DOMINUS NOX!!). I hate the chaos codex, WITH A PASSION! So seeing that, I realized that I could use a different codex better suited to the Night Lord's traits, such as the Blood Angels or the Space Wolves (That's why I'm in this forum ;)). That way I could use either codex to my advantage and also play with the playstyles and things that I like from both books. Whatever you choose to do (and I vote NO for using wolves as codex astartes marines), Happy hunting to ya Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252309-wolves-without-the-growl/#findComment-3064542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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