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[Toxichobbit]

Captain Semper - i'm prepairing a vow at the moment, deciding what i want to get painted. I have a Techmarine that i'd really like to include that i've already started work on. Basically i've so far base coated the red, metal and blue, about 80% of the model. To give you some idea of how complete this is for me, i'll probably spend about 10 hours on him, so far i've done about 45 mins. Would it be ok to include him in the vow?

 

I suppose i could always re-undercoat him and start again if needed :P.

[Captain Semper]

Captain Semper - i'm prepairing a vow at the moment, deciding what i want to get painted. I have a Techmarine that i'd really like to include that i've already started work on. Basically i've so far base coated the red, metal and blue, about 80% of the model. To give you some idea of how complete this is for me, i'll probably spend about 10 hours on him, so far i've done about 45 mins. Would it be ok to include him in the vow?

 

I suppose i could always re-undercoat him and start again if needed :P.

 

No need - 10 hour work should be rewarded! :lol: Techmarine is in!

 

Look fwd for your vow!

[roooooot]

Jaigo bringing the heat!

[greatcrusade08]

nice one guys good to see some more vows, im on course to finish my project, im a little behind my 'mini-targets' but i do have one drop pod done and another started.

All of my infantry is assembled and i have lysander and cassius on my painting table ready to go.

 

if i get finished early i have a second vow ready to go

[Toxichobbit]

I, Toxichobbit answer the challenge of the Unforgiven and vow to complete one 10 man Tactical Squad, one Techmarine, one Librarian and one 5 man Assualt Squad from Codex: Space Marines of total value of 565pts on or before August 15. Success will bring eternal glory to the Ultramarines and failure will doom me to bear the sign of damnation until the year-end.

 

Here's the points breakdown.

 

Librarian - 150pts

Upgraded to Epistolary.

 

Techmarine - 80

Upgraded with thunder hammer.

 

Tactical Squad - 190

10 man, upgraded with plasma gun, multi-melta and combi-plasma for the Sergeant.

 

Assualt Squad - 145

5 man, upgraded with flamer and thunder hammer and melta bombs for the Sergeant.

 

I wish i could do more, but i'm a slow painter. Getting this stuff painted in the next 10 weeks will be the equivalent of painting at light speed for me.

 

Edit - WIP thread here, including starting pictures.

[Captain Semper]

OK Toxichobbit looks good. However how are you going to represent the "Epistolary" upgrade? You can only get points for upgrades that can be physically represnted on the mini - otherwise it's just 50 free points... Think of it - If you have something in mind that's great if not edit it out of your vow adjusting the points value.

 

I'm updating the table with your vow as it stands now but if you are to change it let me now and I'll do the amendment.

 

Good luck :cuss

[Chaplian Silkor]

“I Chaplain Silkor answer the challenge of the Unforgiven and vow to complete a Librarian in Terminator Armour, a 6 man Terminator Squad and a 5 man Terminator Assault Squad from Codex: Space Marines of total value 565 points on or before August 15. Success will bring eternal glory to the Ultramarines and failure will doom me to bear the sign of damnation until the year-end”

[Toxichobbit]

OK Toxichobbit looks good. However how are you going to represent the "Epistolary" upgrade? You can only get points for upgrades that can be physically represnted on the mini - otherwise it's just 50 free points... Think of it - If you have something in mind that's great if not edit it out of your vow adjusting the points value.

 

I'm updating the table with your vow as it stands now but if you are to change it let me now and I'll do the amendment.

 

Good luck :lol:

 

I'm assuming that paint counts as physical representation? My plan was to use an ornate Librarian model (as Epistolaries are high ranking Librarians) and paint rank markings on the tabard. That's the way rank markings were always marked for Librarians, back in 2nd ed when there were four different ranks of them. They have the rank markings in Codex: Ultramarines as well as Insignium Astartes (possibly the article on Librarians in Index Astartes too). Would that be enough to count?

[Captain Semper]

OK Toxichobbit looks good. However how are you going to represent the "Epistolary" upgrade? You can only get points for upgrades that can be physically represnted on the mini - otherwise it's just 50 free points... Think of it - If you have something in mind that's great if not edit it out of your vow adjusting the points value.

 

I'm updating the table with your vow as it stands now but if you are to change it let me now and I'll do the amendment.

 

Good luck :P

 

I'm assuming that paint counts as physical representation? My plan was to use an ornate Librarian model (as Epistolaries are high ranking Librarians) and paint rank markings on the tabard. That's the way rank markings were always marked for Librarians, back in 2nd ed when there were four different ranks of them. They have the rank markings in Codex: Ultramarines as well as Insignium Astartes (possibly the article on Librarians in Index Astartes too). Would that be enough to count?

 

Painting does indeed count as physical representation. Appropriate rank markings on the tabard is good enough for me (and anybody I suspect). Good luck with your vow!

[Toxichobbit]

Awesome. Thanks Captain Semper. I'd have felt really guilty using "old Tigurius" to represent anything other than a Librarian of Epistolary rank.

[Jaigo]

Updated vow with wargear, point cost and dedicated vow fow now.

[Captain Semper]

Got it Jaigo - your vow is in! And what a vow!!!

 

Good luck mate! :rolleyes:

 

 

Also with your vow, the total points pledged for the entire E TENEBRAE LUX crossed the 100k mark!!!

[Jaigo]

oh nice! No small feat. Great to see so many participating.

[Captain Semper]

E TENEBRAE LUX – 3rd WEEK UPDATE

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Well, this is the conclusion of the third week of E TENEBRAE LUX! So far all forums combined have vowed in excess of 100k points between them with almost 200 participants so far. We’ve also seen some vows getting completed already, but it’s still very early in the challenge to draw any meaningful conclusions. Now that we enter the last week before the gates are closed I would like to alert people to that fact. So:

THIS IS THE LAST WEEK FOR NEW ENTRANTS! AFTER THAT THE TEAMS OF EACH FORUM WILL BE SET – NO NEW REINFORCEMENTS WILL BE ALLOWED!

This is very important guys. The more people each forum has in its arsenal the higher the chances of victory! Even if individual people complete tons of points, ultimately all of us have limitations stemming from real life obligations, money, and drive/morale reserves… And when one might think has done his bit for his faction after say, three vows and 1,200 points, another guy from another forum that has kept silent all this time might tip the balance with a single mini entry of 140 pts… :) Trust me, it will happen! :)

So join the ranks now while new entrants are still allowed, even with small vows – just to make sure you will be there when your Chapter/Legion/Warband calls for you!!!

Another significant topic I’d like to raise:

ALL THREE “CODEX: SPACE MARINE” SUB-FORUMS (IA, LA, UM) WILL BE TREATED AS ONE WHERE TOTAL POINTS ARE CONCERNED. IN EFFECT THEY WILL BECOME ONE FACTION FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS CHALLENGE

How will this work? First of all let me say that each forum will retain its standalone identity and I will continue to monitor their progress individually. This way the relative weight of each C:SM sub-forum within the new structure will be immediately visible and honor will go where it’s due! The total points of each C:SM sub- forum will be added together in each weekly report (pretty much as is the case now) and it is this amount of points the other forums must compete against. In case they win, all participants that have completed their vows successfully from all three sub-forums will earn the right to carry the badge of the E TENEBRAE LUX Champion!

I believe this is the fairest way to show how strong the Codex: Space Marines is within the B&C community. It will also give a real fighting chance to IA, LA and UMs to win this – and probably increase participation! ;)

So with no further ado here are the 3rd Week standings:

E TENEBRAE LUX – WEEK 3

Black Templars	26	33	14,171	429
Blood Angels	33	35	16,736	478
Dark Angels	44	46	24,016	522
Codex Space Marines	36	37	19,822	551
Space Wolves	23	24	17,792	741
Chaos	25	26	8,097	311
Ordos Inquisition	11	13	4,146	319
Total	198	214	104,780	529
Index Astartes	17	18	7,430	413
Liber Astartes	9	9	6,438	715
Ultramarines	10	10	5,954	595

Please note that following the deadline of June 15th the above table will also start to show completed points per faction for easier track record. Until then the amount of completed points will be mentioned in each forum’s individual comment below:

Comments:

The Dark Angels retain first position in pledged vows for the 3rd week running, increasing their point-count by 30%. The most important feat though was the increase of vows vs. the second largest forum (Codex: Space Marines) from 4 last week to 9 this week. They also had the first couple of small completions totaling 235pts. So far Dark Angels appear to be in the best position overall: more vows, more total points, average point/vow! The latter is important as it shows that their effort is not overly reliant to super-vows but risk is more spread out.

The Wolves made an even more frantic effort in increasing their point total (+28% w-o-w) and a small amout of completions of 275. However they continue to suffer from relatively low numbers and this is reflected in their monstrous points/vow ratio of 741!!! The means their reliance to super-vows is high and unless they build up their numbers (more vows that is) they run a serious risk of running out of options in the final stages of the Challenge. So c’mon Space Wolves, bring in the full might of the Rout before it’s too late! Remember: one week to go before the gates close!

Blood Angels also increased their point-total by a substantial 27% this week and sport a respectable 33 participants. They also managed to complete a few more points compared to the DAs and the SWs at 1,565. However if they want to challenge the Dark Angels in the long term (this is a challenge, remember?) they have to do more on the new entrants front. They are in a good position right now but this last week would be critical in order to close the difference. What they need is add new vows that will bring their total points/vow ratio closer to the average that currently stands at 550. So any new vow (by new I mean totally new not renewed) should come at above their current average of 478. No need for super-vows here, anything in the 500-600pts bracket will do! You guys stand a good chance to win this – don’t run out of steam now!!!

Black Templars have gone into a completion frenzy! With 7 completions (some in their fourth vow already) they managed 1,995pts this week. Good, I hear you say. Well, not really... We are still in the phase where forming the final teams is more important than scoring completions and on this front the Black Templars seem to have run out of steam. With only 2 more new vows this week and the total of pledged points increasing only 22% (mostly on renewals of existing participants) the BTs are in a precarious position. Having their average point/vow slip by 26 points (the only forum where the size of the average vow declined w-o-w) does not help much either as they now face the real possibility to be left behind. Unless you guys can continue to complete vows with your current rate until mid August, you’ll really need to bring in new blood! Think of it. 7 completions produced a bit less than 2k pts. The BAs with only 3 managed almost 1.6k. Food for thought.

Codex Forums have the second largest amount of vows and points pledged so far. The biggest contribution is made by the Index Astartes forum (37% of total points vowed) and the smallest by the Ultramarines forum (30% of total points vowed). More interestingly their avearge vow is virtually spot-on the average of the whole Challenge which means the Codex forums are not overly reliant to few super-vows but (much like the DAs) have diversified their risk. They sport only 85pts completed so far but this early on this is of secondary importance. However adding vows in the last week is of crucial importance in you guys want to remain on top! A moment of laxity... you know how it goes...

Chaos is seriously behind in total points, number of vows and size of average vow (the latter is the lowest in the challenge currently). I think that the dated CSM range combined with recent rumors of imminent release of the new Codex (and minis) is making people less inclined to commit big at this time. The answer to that is: commit small!!! Forget about average points or indeed total points – just focus on total vows – that way you will have an army of painters standing by. What do you have to lose? To paint an old style single mini? A small basic squad? Nothing important. But if your new Codex is released within the life-time of E TENEBRAE LUX then you will be able to vow again – this time with tons of stuff – reversing the fortunes of war when the rest of the forums least expect it. But for this to work you need the adequate resources i.e. manpower! If you do not have the number of vows, come what may, you will never threaten the leading forums. So... FOR THE DARK GODS!!!

Ordos Inquisition have increased their points by 61% (!) the highest among all forums although admittedly from a low base. Still they managed to have good representation for both GK AND SoBs despite the expensive in $ terms nature of the latter. Keep going guys – your lonely path to the Emperor’s light is an inspiration to all!!!

Still no Titans yet...

Overall, at the end ot the 3rd week of the Challenge we have almost 200 participants and 105k points pledged! This is great guys. Now remember:

THIS IS THE LAST WEEK FOR NEW ENTRANTS! IT’S NOW OR NEVER


Good luck to all!

[UltraRich]

Put me down for a Contemptor dread with heavy conversion beamer and close combat arm with fist mounted bolter. Its all undercoated and about to go blue. It should also be done in time as the techmarines nearly finished.

No idea what the points cost is.... anyone know?

[Cptn. Palladorus]

Contemptor with HCB and DCCW with SB is 210.

[Captain Semper]

OK Ultrarich, I updated your vow to a total 535pts. Check it out let me know if there is anything amiss.

[UltraRich]

Thanks guys

Its now blue so well on the way to been complete

[roooooot]

It looks like it might be a while before my Vindicator and remaining bits for the librarian arrive so I am adding in my Calgar model. At some point I might add the honor squad, but let's see how the rest of it goes first.

 

Original vow on page 1 is updated with adjusted points totals.

[Captain Semper]

OK rooooot, the table is updated with your modified vow. Check it out.

[UltraRich]

Heres a quick update

Techmarine about done. Just last couple of pieces of the harness, basing and highlights and thats it. Its going into the local GW with the rest of my army tomorrow so I'll take some pics tonight.

Contemptor is now blue and Im block colouring it.

 

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f372/rbrewster101/SDC11810.jpg

 

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f372/rbrewster101/SDC11813.jpg

 

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f372/rbrewster101/SDC11812.jpg

[Captain Semper]

[Amazing work there Ultrarich! Your Techmarine is top notch, beautiful bright colors and excellent detailing! Love the flamer - might try to immitate it! :P

 

The Contemptor looks bril in those colors too - white stripe with black borders... You really have some serious skill there! Can't wait to see it done! Keep it up! :)

 

 

 

EDIT: Also the new Command Squad from FW screams UMs!!! Any of you guys thinking of giving it a go? Along with the Apothecary they'll make a brilliant Command squad.

[Crimson Templar]

Ok I can no longer resist. My wife gave me an early Fathers day gift so I guess I have no choice but to pledge a vow.

 

I, Crimson Templar, Vow to complete my Ultra-new Ultramarines Storm Talon with Missiles (I have not decided between the two but the points are the same), my Honour guard squad totaling 5 honour guard, but I'm only taking the points for 4 since the standard bearer is done. The Honour guards razorback is in need of paint so I Vow to get the HG'c ride done and of course I vow to complete the big man himself, Marneus Calgar in both armour variants. Should I fail to achieve this vow you can whip me and post a little tag on me that says I am a loser, but should I complete my vow, All Dark Angels will kneel before the Ultramarines.

 

Points breakdown:

155 Storm Talon with Missiles

250 Marneus Calgar in Power Armour

265 Marneus Calgar in Armour of Antilochus

180 Four honour guard with two relic blades (you can not argue that the pretty axes with the chapter symbol are not relic blades)

100 Razorback with TL Lascannon, extra-armour (yes it has forgeworls armour on it) and Pintle storm bolter

 

Total Vow

950 points

[Captain Semper]

Ok I can no longer resist. My wife gave me an early Fathers day gift so I guess I have no choice but to pledge a vow.

 

Your wife gave you a ather's day gift? Some guys have all the luck! :D

 

(you can not argue that the pretty axes with the chapter symbol are not relic blades)

 

Arguing against that is heresy - plain & simple! Of course they are relic blades! :)

 

Fantastic vow there Crimson - Good luck! :)

[Captain Semper]

E TENEBRAE LUX – 4th WEEK UPDATE

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So now with the 4th Week of the E TENEBRAE LUX behind us we are approaching the crucial point of June 15th. From then onwards no NEW entrants will be allowed. The teams in each forum will be set. No reinforcements will be forthcoming and the brave warriors that took the oath will be on their own until the end on August 15th. So to those of you that are hanging on the balance, make a step forward, reveal yourselves, make the vow and support your brothers that have already committed in this Challenge! Only a few days left… Come Friday the doors will be closed – never to open up again!!!

Another thing to take into account is that no modifications or changes of any kind on existing vows will be allowed after June 15th, no withdrawals and no changing of sides. Those that are in are in for the duration of the Challenge and are liable for their vows. Failure to complete will warrant the Badge of Shame! New vows will allowed provided previous vows are declared complete.

So come Friday the situation would have crystallized, people will know who is on their team and strategies might start to form. There are the fast painters and those that have substantial stash that could add new vows at will. Those that have vast vows that will probably keep them busy to the end of Challenge in mid-August and those that can step in with quick ones to give the edge to their faction!

Also a reminder:

ALL THREE “CODEX: SPACE MARINE” SUB-FORUMS (IA, LA, UM) WILL BE TREATED AS ONE WHERE TOTAL POINTS ARE CONCERNED. IN EFFECT THEY WILL BECOME ONE FACTION FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS CHALLENGE

While the progress of each forum will be monitored individually their total completed points will be added together and this would be the amount of points other forums will have to compete against! Should they win all three forums will have the honor to carry the badge of the Champion!

So here are the 4th Week standings:

E TENEBRAE LUX – WEEK 4

Black Templars	31	39	17,580	451
Blood Angels	39	41	21,187	517
Dark Angels	57	61	31,992	524
Codex Space Marines	43	44	26,594	618
Space Wolves	29	31	20,595	664
Chaos	30	33	12,447	377
Ordos Inquisition	12	15	4,611	307
Total	241	264	135,036	560
Index Astartes	21	22	11,752	534
Liber Astartes	11	11	7,463	678
Ultramarines	11	11	7,379	671

Please note that following the deadline of June 15th the above table will also start to show completed points per faction for easier track record. Until then the amount of completed points will be mentioned in each forum’s individual comment below:

Comments:

The Dark Angels really set new standards this week adding 13(!) new vows and almost 8k points. This puts them firmly in the lead of the Challenge with some clear distance from the second. Completions are still sparse with only 755 points completed so far. However they certainly have the edge right now because the main issue until June 15th is to get new vows in. And the DAs excel in that!

The Wolves also tried to add new vows with some success (+6 on the week) and also increased their completions to 1,380pts. But in the big picture they are in dire straights. With only 29 vows the weight upon those that have committed is too heavy. Their very large vows and monstrous points/vow ratio manage to keep in the game (4th in terms of points pledged) but small vow-count will show its ugly face in the later part of the Challenge. Will they manage to increase participation before the doors close? Or will the few carry the honor of the many on their shoulders? You have enough time to get people in – but you need to move fast. If you manage to get just 10 more people in combined with your legendary high point vows victory will be within your grasp!

Blood Angels are currently among the favorites. Plain and simple. Only third in vows and points and fairly close to the second place they are very well positioned to jump forward as the Challenge gradually matures… But be careful – if you do not maintain a flow of new participants it’ll be very easy to run out of steam come July and then it’ll be almost impossible to reverse the situation. You really need to add as many new entrants as possible before Friday’s deadline so you’ll get more options later on! The BAs managed to complete 1,920 pts so far.

Black Templars have managed to reach 31 participants in total (+5 on the week) but are now in a challenging position. Unless they bring in reinforcements in the form of new vows (at least 10 more), they’ll have to significantly raise their points/vow ratio to above Wolf levels – and that is saying something. Then again accepting challenges is what the BTs do for a living so maybe that’s for the best. :lol: But seriously the more new vows you bring in your chances increase exponentially! Focus on new recruits while there is still time and leave completions for later! On the positive side, the BTs currently sport the highest amount of completions at 2,260pts

Codex Forums continue their proud trajectory to the top! They have the second highest amount of participants, the second highest amount of new additions and the second highest amount of pledged points. They appear to be are doing alright on all fronts, but will it be enough? There is only one Champion and the second best is as good as last! Also the BAs are closing in aggressively so there is certainly no comfort in their position. The last few days may prove enough to topple them from second place unless they secure it by maintaining momentum in terms of new additions. Keep the engines running guys! The only completions so far is 220pts, but at this stage this is of fairly low importance. This week Index Astartes retained the largest contribution to the combined effort with 44% of total points pledged with the other two forums equally contributing 28% each.

Chaos stepped-up its effort in line with the SWs and the BTs retaining similar levels of vows. In terms of points however they are significantly behind, a phenomenon that is attributed to the expectation of the rumored new Chaos Codex. However, if this proves to be false, you guys will be missing out on the opportunity to support the Dark Gods in this challenge for no reason… If on the other hand it proves correct and you have not committed by Friday you will again miss the opportunity to participate – only this time you’ll probably have new fancy minis and huge appetite to start new projects. So play safe, join the ETL with small vows if this is how you feel and you get the option to raise the stakes later! If you’re not in by Friday, you are not in at all! Chaos had some completions already as well to a total of 1,601 pts.

Ordos Inquisition added another participant this week and another renewed vow. Their total completions are a 693pts and they stand defiant in the face of the First Legion! They follow their lonely path to the Emperor’s light and woe to those that will stand in their way! Keep walking guys – you’re making all of us proud! :(

The Mechanicum remains silent.

So the 4th week is over… The total participation has been breathtaking so far and more is yet to happen! Overall there are 241 participants having pledged almost 135k points so far! This is fantastic and very promising for the later parts of the Challenge where competition is expected to climb steeply!!! :P

As we approach the deadline I would appreciate if all participants check that their vows are correctly entered and make sure they make any final adjustments. Recall that after the 15th NO CHANGES IN THE VOWS WILL BE ALLOWED. One can always make new vows ONCE the previous ones are declared complete but no change in the vows will be allowed once it is submitted.


THIS IS THE LAST OPPORTUNITY FOR NEW ENTRANTS! ON FRIDAY THE DOORS WILL BE CLOSED FOR EVER


Good luck to all!