Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 As I slowly begin to amass the pieces I need for my World Eaters army, I find myself staring at Khârn the Betrayer. What a clunky old model this is!! His static pose just screams bolt gun up the you know where!! SO, I am going to kit bash one up for my army. I want him is this kind of pose: http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/102804/102804,1264468305,1/stock-photo-hispanic-man-screaming-in-mixed-martial-arts-pose-45329527.jpg That shouldn't be too hard. I'm converting the Black Templar power axe bit into Gorechild because the original bit has a chain already wrapped around the wrist. This will however switch the weapons into different arms. Do you think this is okay?? I also want the plasma pistol in the other hand to be lying on the ground as if he's just dropped it in a fit a berzerker rage, I'll be using the Blood Angels Sanguinary guard open hand for this. And chaosing up a regular marine plasma pistol since I think the design looks cooler. Lastly, and this is the main question I want feedback on, I also want Kharns' helmet to be lying on the ground exposing his long haired screaming face. Do you think this would look good?? I searched and found nothing on or in regards to the hairstyle of said crazy man. I know it may sound funny, but I want the model to look super badass, and I picture him with long dirty blonde hair. Anyways, I'll be using this thread as my WIP spot as well so check back once and a while to see how he's coming together!! End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caffeineated Chaos Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Personally I'm really fond of Khârn's sculpt, but that's me. I say arm switching is fine. ADB's "Butcher's Nails" seems to suggest that Khârn used to dual-wield chain-axes, like his primarch, at least in the gladiatorial arena(ADB might clarify and prove me wrong, which is perfectly fine), so I'd imagine Khârn's fairly ambidextrous, also don't think it'd be too much issue for him to switch it up any which way Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3062913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
empchildrenbob Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 in one of the horus heresy books they describe his looks(one of the earlier book but i cant remembr which one) but i highly doubt he still looks like that 10,000 years later. I think you should keep the helmet on since i dont think he ever takes it off anyway. He does drop his pistol a few time in the fluff but never takes off his helmet. plus, its iconic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3063720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 in one of the horus heresy books they describe his looks(one of the earlier book but i cant remembr which one) but i highly doubt he still looks like that 10,000 years later. I think you should keep the helmet on since i dont think he ever takes it off anyway. He does drop his pistol a few time in the fluff but never takes off his helmet. plus, its iconic See, this is the kind of thing I wanted to know about before getting into this project, which I have not. Yet. Thanks for the information empchildrenbob. I was hoping to avoid grinding down a metal model for it's head... None of the Zerker helmets have the menacing flair that Kharns does... Well :). End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3063742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I was hoping to avoid grinding down a metal model for it's head... None of the Zerker helmets have the menacing flair that Kharns does... Well :). Well, then good news! His head is a separate piece :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3063770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
empchildrenbob Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 if you are really intrested in doing Khârn without a helmet, heres the only text describing his face: "deeply bronzed warrior, with a long and noble face." Again, after 10,000 years he probably looks different but there you go Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3064272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thargrim_Bloodwolf Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 His face is probably going to be covered in scarring after millenia of close combat. Plus you musn't forget about them butcher's nails embedded into his skull. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3064309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 I was hoping to avoid grinding down a metal model for it's head... None of the Zerker helmets have the menacing flair that Kharns does... Well <_<. Well, then good news! His head is a separate piece :lol: Best. News. Evar!! Thanks for all of the input so far guys, I do appreciate it. I ordered a Khârn from my LGS last night, but it could take a week to arrive, or it could take months... I have a small bits package en route to me from an ebay seller I use and once those arrive I will start working on him and get some photos posted. End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3064716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulochromis Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I use the Legion of the Damned Sergeant with the Power Axe and Plasma Pistol for my Khârn. I love the way he is just striding forward, he looks like nothing can resist him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3082553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarSpirit Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Here's my rebuild of Khârn to give you inspiration. Legs are from a MKVI marine from the froge world kit. A MKV torso from the SM sprue. Molded his belt with green stuff since it's rather iconic. Took his left arm and his head from my old metal model and his backpack. Right arm is from the zerkers sprue. http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5870/img2379i.jpg http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8963/img2380lq.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3130240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemonic Champion Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 That looks amazing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3131202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Top notch. Very dynamic; I dig the fact that you removed his pig-tails. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3132207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarSpirit Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Yeah, had trouble to fit them with the pose so i cut them of, he's way better without them, he can turn his head. He thanked by slaying for khorne. Looking forward to see your conversion, the pose idea is great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3132267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Blades Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Here's my rebuild of Khârn to give you inspiration. Legs are from a MKVI marine from the froge world kit. A MKV torso from the SM sprue. Molded his belt with green stuff since it's rather iconic. Took his left arm and his head from my old metal model and his backpack. Right arm is from the zerkers sprue. http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5870/img2379i.jpg http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8963/img2380lq.jpg That pose... looks so similar to mine, but mine is a complete scratch build... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3206508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Epic Khârn Warspirit! Really a great and easy conversion, those are always the best. My personal aim now is to create this Khârn: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121003161643/warhammer40k/images/thumb/2/24/Kharn_victory.jpg/250px-Kharn_victory.jpg Which will be very similiar looking like that of Warspirit. Ontopic: There are just a few models who will really let you able to create the dynamic pose Angron has on the cover of the e-book/story book. My personal advice is going the sculpting route and perhaps thake arms/pieces from Ogre Kingdoms (plastic ogres) to form your own model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3207008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarSpirit Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Epic Khârn Warspirit! Really a great and easy conversion, those are always the best. My personal aim now is to create this Khârn: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121003161643/warhammer40k/images/thumb/2/24/Kharn_victory.jpg/250px-Kharn_victory.jpg Which will be very similiar looking like that of Warspirit. Ontopic: There are just a few models who will really let you able to create the dynamic pose Angron has on the cover of the e-book/story book. My personal advice is going the sculpting route and perhaps thake arms/pieces from Ogre Kingdoms (plastic ogres) to form your own model. I understand you, as soon as i saw this picture i wanted to do one myself Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3209642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julgolax Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Question; why does Khârn even have a pistol, especially a plasma pistol? I mean plasma tech is high maintenance and I doubt he ever rests to maintain it so... how does it function at all anymore? I would rather just see someone model a Khârn with his plasma pistol holstered and swinging Gorechild 2 handed, much like Astorath the Grim's pose. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3209762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappadocius38 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 in one of the horus heresy books they describe his looks(one of the earlier book but i cant remembr which one) but i highly doubt he still looks like that 10,000 years later. I think you should keep the helmet on since i dont think he ever takes it off anyway. He does drop his pistol a few time in the fluff but never takes off his helmet. plus, its iconic In the audio drama "Chosen of Khorne" it refers to him without a helmet, but I cannot remember if it goes into a lot of detail about his face. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3209791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Question; why does Khârn even have a pistol, especially a plasma pistol? I mean plasma tech is high maintenance and I doubt he ever rests to maintain it so... how does it function at all anymore? I would rather just see someone model a Khârn with his plasma pistol holstered and swinging Gorechild 2 handed, much like Astorath the Grim's pose. Well, if you have read a bit more of fluff about him in the books, he actually does have the rest to maintain it. In short I don't know why GW gave it to them, it's just that all the cool named cats have one. I heard he has really big ears underneat that helmet :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252454-modeling-kharn-the-betrayer/#findComment-3210489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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