*Furyou Miko Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 +++Incoming Message+++ +++From: Canoness Mirai, Order of the Sacred Tome+++ +++To: All Inquisition assets+++ +++Encryption level: VERMILLION+++ +++Priority: ALPHA+++ +++Subject: Threat Assessment; enemy ref 007; subset 'Deathmarks'+++ +++Target Breakdown; 5 units designate 'Deathmark'; 2 units designate 'Harbinger of Despair', 1 unit designate 'Overlord'+++ +++Target threat level: ALPHA PLUS+++ +++Recommended Counter-tactic: Deployment of Mystics and plasma weaponry. Use of vehicular assets.+++ These units are EXTREMELY dangerous. They use repeated teleportations to target high priority and/or small units, erasing them in a hail of short-range weapons fire before fading away to strike elsewhere. Terminator Armour and Heavy Cover are of NO VALUE against these units. Squads specifically marked for death will not even be protected by a strong will and faith in the Emperor. +++Message Ends+++ ________________________________________________ So, I just fielded these units and feel the need to pay penance (because seriously, it's like clubbing baby seals). The unit in question is a MSU of Deathmarks, accompanied by two Crypteks armed with Abyssal Staffs, one of whom carries a Veil of Darkness (which allows them to Deep Strike every turn instead of moving normally). The Abyssal Staff is an AP1 flamer template that has S8, but wounds against Leadership. The Deathmarks' special rule allows them to pick a single enemy unit (per squad of deathmarks) against which all attacks wound on a 2+. If you want to be particularly cruel, you can attach an Overlord with a Gauntlet of Fire and a Ressurection Orb to increase the unit's resilience and damage output (another Flamer that wounds on a 2+, although this one is only AP5). Considering that the Deathmarks themselves are armed with Rapid Fire sniper rifles, these things are a threat to tricked-up Paladin squads, let alone GKTs or Strike squads. Of course, I'm just a poor Necrons/Sisters player, so what would the Grey Knights do? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252488-threat-assessment/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashen Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 You have some nice synergy happening there. Now the question is, can the veil of darkness be used if the unit is in combat? If so, that makes it exceptional, if not, then its good but not OTT. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252488-threat-assessment/#findComment-3062962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Warp Quake. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252488-threat-assessment/#findComment-3063126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 No, but there is a special character who can join one of the squads who does have that ability (as well as a potential 10 S7 power weapon attacks in CC) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252488-threat-assessment/#findComment-3063159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 as gent said warp quake is very problematic for such a unit .+ there is still the problem of getting stuff out of transports . a single units death should not make an army lose. for draigo wings one wound always on draigo , other termis have invs . puri spams would just castle up , if he pops a unit then he eats a whole army of incoming fire [probably less] with a possible counter charge [which is kind of a death for such a glass deathstar unit] . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252488-threat-assessment/#findComment-3063387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Damn, wrong topic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252488-threat-assessment/#findComment-3063391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3mpl@r Crusade Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Would coteaz be a benefit here. As far as I know he can shoot on the opponents deepstrike. I'm not sure what profile the bedroom unit in question has, but I imagine that their is a suitable under killy unit that could take them out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252488-threat-assessment/#findComment-3063530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 MEq statline with come-back-from-the-dead on a 5+ (or 4+ with the overlord). What does 'under killy' mean? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252488-threat-assessment/#findComment-3063830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3mpl@r Crusade Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I meant uber killy. i must have auto corrected it my accident with my tablet. And upon closer inspection, I have no clue how the word bedroom squeeked in there haha. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252488-threat-assessment/#findComment-3064121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 ;) I assumed it was because a unit as killy as a 2+ to wound AP1 template would be someone's wet dream. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252488-threat-assessment/#findComment-3064238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortysl Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Would coteaz be a benefit here. As far as I know he can shoot on the opponents deepstrike. I'm not sure what profile the bedroom unit in question has, but I imagine that their is a suitable under killy unit that could take them out As far as I'm aware, Coteaz's "I've been expecting you" rule only applies against units arriving from reserve, so Deepstriking instead of movement wouldn't activate the rule, as they aren't arriving from reserve. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252488-threat-assessment/#findComment-3065304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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