legoss Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Ok, so I'm working again on my fluff for my chapter, and I would ask some help on my idea for the chapter's gene-seed. My idea is that, due to manipulation by a former apothecary, the chapter's gene-seed was corrupted. With extremely strict monitoring and controls, it has been stabilized, but is now somewhat deficient. My idea is that the betcher's gland is hyper active, and as the marines age their acid spit becomes flammable. The trade off is the neuroglottis being pretty much burnt out, and also the possibility that the progenoid in the neck may be damaged before it matures, though this is not a rampant problem. I'm aware this could slow down recruitment, weaken the chapter, possibly even lead to irreplaceable losses, and if that is the general feeling of the Liber, then I'll definitely go down that road. Secondly, I've been thinking this would lead the chapter to a crisis of faith so to speak. While the apothecarion was trying to bring the gene-seed degradation under control, the chapter would have pushed toward bionic replacement and enhancement. Once the degradation is stabilized, some of the marines realize they've lost part of the chapter's history and soul, so they push for a return to more of the chapter's tribal heritage and rituals. So there would be two competing beliefs within the chapter, one that believes the machine is superior and the other that believes it's the warrior that is supreme. I don't see this as a violent, civil war type of issue, more a friendly rivalry. What do you guys think, is there any merit to any of this, or am I just way off my rocker? C&C welcomed, whether it's kid gloves or a bowling ball to the face. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252900-gene-seed-defect/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 due to manipulation by a former chaplain, the chapter's gene-seed was corrupted Ok, the biggies - why and how? What purpose would a chaplain have trying to manipulate the geneseed? It cant have been a simply 'trying to make the marines better in a campaign' due to the lead-in time (any changes made would take 10-15 years before the scouts implanted with them would mature into marines). It also has to get past the entire Apothecarion - there will be checks on the geneseed, records of the maturation process for each marine, again checked against previous generations, multiple observations of test-subjects (so swaying just 1 apothecary is not gonna be enough). Then, you've got to corrupt a critacal mass of geneseed - even if you did every geneseed in theri chapter store, there would be uncorrupted geneseed in the marines who were already serving. Take just one of those out, spawn it in a vat-grown clone (as the Ad Mech do at the start of a new founding) and in 90 years you have 500-odd brand new sets of uncorrupted geneseed. And marines really do think along that sort of scale when dealing with recruiting/geneseed etc... Then the how - Chaplains dont know anything about the details of genetic engineering. Without using daemonic influences, there's little that a chaplin could actually do to geneseed other than destroy it. If he did use a daemonic pact or something, he's now now only got to fool the apothecarion, he's got to get past the Chapter Librarius... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252900-gene-seed-defect/#findComment-3070490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legoss Posted May 27, 2012 Author Share Posted May 27, 2012 Whoops, I meant apothecary, not chaplain. As to the other questions, can you guys add additional c&c for this change. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252900-gene-seed-defect/#findComment-3070605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Straight away that makes a lot more sense... :lol: Will try and re-comment later - got bbq-ing to do now though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252900-gene-seed-defect/#findComment-3070912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legoss Posted May 27, 2012 Author Share Posted May 27, 2012 Thanks, and I think I need to hustle up and get my IA written, since no matter how good, or bad, this idea may be on it's own, in a vacuum like this it still doesn't work without context. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252900-gene-seed-defect/#findComment-3070922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Question: Someone who believes in strength in flesh has his hand damaged so much it cannot be saved - what happens? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252900-gene-seed-defect/#findComment-3071285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 He deals with it... Injuries happen, bionics allow him to function again. they just aren't so enamoured as to replace the whole arm if they only need a hand... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252900-gene-seed-defect/#findComment-3071962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legoss Posted May 28, 2012 Author Share Posted May 28, 2012 He deals with it... Injuries happen, bionics allow him to function again. they just aren't so enamoured as to replace the whole arm if they only need a hand... That was my thought. One group continues the tradition of replacing flesh, possibly at certain intervals, possibly just when something happens. The other group isn't as concerned with bionics and such, they're neutral about mechanical stuff, it's more about the tribal mindset over the detached mechanical precision. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252900-gene-seed-defect/#findComment-3071986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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