Exark Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 How could one accomplish this? Currently I cannot figure out a coherent way to cause a schism in the fluff of my current DIY chapter. I wish to have them fall to the dark mechanicus but I cannot come up with a decent way of explaining how it got there. Anyone have any suggestions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253010-causing-a-chapter-to-fall-into-tech-heresy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashMan Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 That's easy..promises of knowledge. Knowledge needed to defend humanity. The idea that the AdMech is stiffling progress. Any desire for change might do it. My own chapter is (borderline) tech-heretics Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253010-causing-a-chapter-to-fall-into-tech-heresy/#findComment-3070484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 That's easy..promises of knowledge. Knowledge needed to defend humanity.The idea that the AdMech is stiffling progress. Any desire for change might do it. My own chapter is (borderline) tech-heretics +1 To expand on this further - perhaps a world nearby your Chapter's homeworld is under attack from a Xeno strike force, or Chaos, and after sending a request for help, receive the short but very blunt reply, of "That World is not important enough to divert resources to save it, there are other more important world's to save." Your Chapter scrabbles around, desperate to try to save it and an offer of help comes in the form of the Dark Mechanicus, whom are masquerading as the Loyal type. Your Chapter accept and slowly but surely come to depend on the Dark Mech for equipment. Eventually, the temptation of using more risqué stuff is too much to resist and they give in. Or, your Chapter somehow offends the Ad Mech and they slowly stop resupplying them. In desperation, they seek out their Dark Cousins the Dark Mechanicus and an alliance is formed. Just an idea :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253010-causing-a-chapter-to-fall-into-tech-heresy/#findComment-3070492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Or your techmarines recover somethign they think is worth retrieval (a damaged/lost titan for example) which turns out to have a compromised Machine Spirit. Siad machien spirit wakes up in the chapter Armoury and inserts chaotic scrapcode into vehicles/chapter fortress controls/Armoury Database core/etc before beign returned to the Ad Mech which in turn infects the techmarines who have to work with it on a daily basis. they may not even notice that they are affected. Suddenly they start to introduce 'new' weapons, are more likely to pass along Xenos tech to Line squads, causing the marines to become more used to usign heretic tech. Eventually this will cause a chapter-wide moral infection. Maybe the Chaplains are the last hold-outs (still usign bolters and their Crosius') but get overwhelmed by their brethren when they preach about the sins of heretic tech. Aroudn this time the Ad Mech finally turn up with an Inquisition fleet at their back becuase they realised that the Titan infected the marines. Suddenly the chapter has to flee (like the Astral Claws eventually had to) and are stuck with using the Dark Adeptus to train their new tech marines and supply thier vehicles/weapons etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253010-causing-a-chapter-to-fall-into-tech-heresy/#findComment-3070500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitorHayn Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Or your techmarines recover somethign they think is worth retrieval (a damaged/lost titan for example) which turns out to have a compromised Machine Spirit. Siad machien spirit wakes up in the chapter Armoury and inserts chaotic scrapcode into vehicles/chapter fortress controls/Armoury Database core/etc before beign returned to the Ad Mech which in turn infects the techmarines who have to work with it on a daily basis. they may not even notice that they are affected. Personally, I think Leonaides is spot on with this approach, though I do have an alternative ending. Instead of it slowly bleeding throughout your Marines, let's say that the tech-marines are the only ones to fall, forming a heretek cult within the Chapter. My guess is that to most citizens of the Imperium, and I daresay most Space Marines, the difference between tech-piety and tech-heresy is, at best, difficult to determine if not outright undefinable. The only ones who have gone to Mars and know "good" practices from "bad" are now corrupt...and probably smart enough to conceal it. So they may tweak the Chapter's technology a bit. Are you, Battle-Brother, going to tell the Master of the Forge that his mech-rites aren't correct? Of course not. You have no idea what right even looks like. That's why you have tech-marines in the first place. :tu: That said, your Chapter may not even know that they have hereteks among them for years until someone else notices. Maybe it's the AdMech, another Chapter, an engineseer on crusade with the Chapter, or even the Inquisition. And imagine the rifts and turmoil that would rise when the Brothers find out about their heretic brethren. Do they persecute them? Do they defend them in disbelief or out of gratitude for the countless lives the dark techs have saved in the Chapter? Or perhaps the heretek Marines make a break for it and form a splinter faction a la Raptor cult. O the humanity! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253010-causing-a-chapter-to-fall-into-tech-heresy/#findComment-3070533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Maybe just consider they have spent so long away from the majority of the Imperiumand its support elements that they had to look to their own ingenuity to keep fighting the enemies of Man. On their return the Adeptus Mechanicus are not so pleased at the things they have done, thus they are all but chased in to the arms of the Dark Mechanicus for merely trying to serve the Emperor. It has a delicious irony. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253010-causing-a-chapter-to-fall-into-tech-heresy/#findComment-3071288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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