Brotherhood

[Olis]

Greetings, brothers and sisters. Please excuse a strange man from a strange land and his silly questions but please, bear with me.

 

While having a think about the alternate Russ we're cooking up in this thread, I had a brief thought about Leman Russ and his respective relationships with his brothers. Now, I'm fairly certain we're all aware of his interactions with Magnus and the Lion, so there's no point going over that (or at least, not yet).

 

What I'm interested in is Russ's relationships with his other brothers - I'm asking here because, well, let's be fair, if anyone knows it'll be the residents here. That and the fact that I'd rather get the info from yourselves than a wiki. I think I remember hearing about the Khan and Russ getting on a while back but besides that I'm pretty much drawing a blank. What did he think of each of his brothers? What was their relationship like? Who did he detest and who did he really like? However, I'm not after info relating to the post-heresy, mind you, just pre-heresy stuff, if it's possible. Any information provided would be quite helpful. Thanks.

 

Edit - Changed the topic title on account that it was asinine. :)

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

Greetings, brothers and sisters. Please excuse a strange man from a strange land and his silly questions but please, bear with me.

 

While having a think about the alternate Russ we're cooking up in this thread, I had a brief thought about Leman Russ and his respective relationships with his brothers. Now, I'm fairly certain we're all aware of his interactions with Magnus and the Lion, so there's no point going over that (or at least, not yet).

 

What I'm interested in is Russ's relationships with his other brothers - I'm asking here because, well, let's be fair, if anyone knows it'll be the residents here. That and the fact that I'd rather get the info from yourselves than a wiki. I think I remember hearing about the Khan and Russ getting on a while back but besides that I'm pretty much drawing a blank. What did he think of each of his brothers? What was their relationship like? Who did he detest and who did he really like? However, I'm not after info relating to the post-heresy, mind you, just pre-heresy stuff, if it's possible. Any information provided would be quite helpful. Thanks.

 

Edit - Changed the topic title on account that it was asinine. ;)

 

Alright, this here is only my opinion:

 

Dorn: I think Russ would have gotten along with Dorn, for his was both martial, honest and hard-working. He was willing to put the work in for good results, and I think Russ would have appreciated this.

Guilliman: I think would have respected his Legion's accomplishments, but not personally liked Guilliman due to the business like nature he turned warfare into. The amount of control and restraint shown by Guilliman would have turned Russ away, who while controlled did let loose his fury when it was appropiate. (and sometimes when it wasnt)

Vulkan: Again, respected Vulkan's ethics but not necessarily the way he waged war. The culture Russ was raised in did invest alot of faith/respect in smiths, so that would have helped Russ's view of him.

Khan: These two would have gotten along like a house on fire. They are scary similar.

Sanguinius: I think they would have gotten along because everybody liked Sanguinius. Also, Sangy has a fearsome CC reputation that Russ would have respected.

Ferrus Manus: I think these two would have gotten along, due to the clannish nature of the Iron Hands and the smith aspect of Ferrus. Also, Ferrus's blunt nature and strength would have been appreciated by Russ.

Corax: I think while Russ would have respected him for his actions, their differing views on warfare would have kept these two brothers from true friendship.

 

Horus: I think Horus's natural charisma and martial prowess would have won a friend in Russ.

Angron: I think Russ would have found Angron's excess and lack of control distasteful, and his killing of his own officers downright horrible. I cant see these Russ respecting him.

Mortarion: While they both hodl the same views on sorcery, i cant see these two being friendly with each other.

Perturabo: I think Russ would have disliked him, because of the nature of warfare that Perty excelled out and for the almost petty nature that Perty seems to radiate.

Fulgrim: I think Russ would have disliked him for being a preening pretty boy fop. While very skilled with a blade, i think the perfectionist nature of the Emp Children would have frustrated Russ

Alpharius & Omegron: I think their secretive nature, combined with their clinical nature of warfare would have Russ disliking them.

Cruze: I think Russ would have hated him. This guy is not a warrior, but a pet psychopath of the Emperor.

Lograr: While Russ was against purging him and his legion, i dont see these two as friends as Lorgar's obsessive search for divinity would have angered Russ, who maintained his own views of the Emperor's nature but didnt seem to force them onto others.

 

again, just my opinion.

 

WLK

[Blacksad]

Guilliman: meh... brothers, yes, friends, no

Vulkan: Russ and Vulkan, imo, were different sides to the same coin. their goals are the same, their method of reaching it slightly different, but the common cause would make them great friends

Fulgrim: a skilled warrior, so he would have gotten Russ's respect, but true friendship? I think not. They had too little to talk about

Alpharius & Omegron: I think Russ would appreciate their results, and methods, as long as he wouldn't have to 'stoop so low'

Magnus: I believe Russ really loved Magnus as a little brother, and it truly hurt him when he had to... "berate" him for the Emperor

[Brother Captain Kezef]

Russ was two men.

 

The Russ his son's saw, the rugged Fenrisian hero and the Russ he truly was, a Primarch.

 

The HH seris has shown a hint of this, how Russ played up for his Wolves because he knew what and who they would respect and follow. The true wolf king was allot more inteligent and cunning.

[Valerian]

The true wolf king was allot more inteligent and cunning.

 

What is an allot? I've never heard of one of those? Perhaps it is a Fenrisian monster of legend?

 

V

[Brother Captain Kezef]

The true wolf king was allot more inteligent and cunning.

 

What is an allot? I've never heard of one of those? Perhaps it is a Fenrisian monster of legend?

 

V

 

queen's english through a filter of dyslexia

[Marmande]

On Russ' relationship with Fulgrim in Prospero Burns,

I get the impression that Fulgrim was like a respected older brother to Russ. Best friends? Hardly. But there was levity and respect in how they talked with each other.

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

On Russ' relationship with Fulgrim in Prospero Burns,

I get the impression that Fulgrim was like a respected older brother to Russ. Best friends? Hardly. But there was levity and respect in how they talked with each other.

 

I forgot that part.

 

One thing i should add to my above comment.

 

Whatever Russ may personally feel about his brothers, i have no doubt he loved them all. I think family/the primarch brotherhood was a big deal to Russ, which made his fury at the traitors all the worse.

 

WLK

[Olis]

Thanks for the replies brothers, I'd best say I'm looking for sourced info over speculation but personal opinions will have to do, if necessary.

 

On Russ' relationship with Fulgrim in Prospero Burns,

I get the impression that Fulgrim was like a respected older brother to Russ. Best friends? Hardly. But there was levity and respect in how they talked with each other.

 

This could very well translate nicely to the project I'm helping write, considering

techno-viking

Russ and Fulgrim are on the same side in our alternate universe. Cheers, brother. ;)