373 points to protect/support the core

[matt01price]

Hello fellow wolves

 

Right - I've got the core of my list sorted -

 

Rune Priest

2 long range LF packs (2 ml & 2 lc)

3 large GH packs in rhinos

 

I'm now looking for units to basically take some of the heat away from my main force. At the moment I have a pack of wolf scouts, a plasma dread and a pack of pc and hb LFs undercoated and in the works to fill this gap but I was wondering if you could offer any advice on other arrangements as I don't really feel there is any true threat in that scheme... I've thought of several other options like thunderwolves (nasty nasty unit but a little cheesy and cliche one could argue), land speeders (not all that wolfy and I'm playing morkai's company so scouts would be prefered), exotic blood claws like swift and sky claws (but with the rest of the chapter prefering to fight on foot I'd prefer to run them on foot) or even adding in an extra GH pack and adding a WGBL with saga of the hunter to hit from the side which would arguably fit with morkai's mentality and bolster troops options and it's a little different (would you give this outflanking bunch a rhino? also would you go plasma or melta for them bearing in mind i've got melta on all the other GH?). At the moment the main options in my head are -

 

1 - Land Speeder (MM or MM & HF) + Thunder Wolves (ultra competitive but a little cheesy and cliche)

 

2 - Big foot BC pack with Wolf Priest and WGPL (probably not that competetive but should be a bullet magnet when if I were to run them across the board at full pelt)

 

3 - Scouts pack and GH pack with WGBL (saga of the hunter) (should be fun and arguably different...)

 

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated... It's just a little tricky trying to balance between competitive play, fluff and not just wanting to take a list printed off the 'net.

 

Cheers!!

 

Matt

[Blacksad]

Land Raider with MM and a WGBL with saga of the hunter in it? plant it in a forest, and you've got a lasscannon base with a 2+ coversave :rolleyes:

[dswanick]

How about 3X WGTDA (Stom Bolter/Power Fist, Storm Bolter/Wolf Claw/Melta Bombs, and Assault Cannon/Wolf Claw/Melta Bombs) in a Drop Pod - 194pts.

I'm assuming you have at least two WGPA acting as Pack Leaders for your Grey Hunter squads, but if not it still allows points to add them. If you don't need the points for the PA models, then you can invest the rest in upgrading the Storm Bolters to Combi-s, and take either a low cost unit - Whirlwind, Land Speeder, Wolf Scouts, etc...

[Valerian]

Land Raider with MM and a WGBL with saga of the hunter in it? plant it in a forest, and you've got a lasscannon base with a 2+ coversave :P

 

WGBL can't attach to a Land Raider, so his Stealth wouldn't do anything for its Obscured save.

 

Valerian

[WG Vrox]

3 - Scouts pack and GH pack with WGBL (saga of the hunter) (should be fun and arguably different...)

 

This, but also consider a WP in RA with a PP instead of WGBL.

[ironking]

You could throw in a Lone Wolf in TDA with a thunder hammer. From what I hear they are great at causing distractions.

[Valerian]

You could throw in a Lone Wolf in TDA with a thunder hammer. From what I hear they are great at causing distractions.

 

My favorite is the TDA with Chainfist and Storm Shield loadout. Nothing is safe.

[Blacksad]

Land Raider with MM and a WGBL with saga of the hunter in it? plant it in a forest, and you've got a lasscannon base with a 2+ coversave ;)

 

WGBL can't attach to a Land Raider, so his Stealth wouldn't do anything for its Obscured save.

 

Valerian

doesn't his Stealth 'transfer' to the vehicle he's riding?

[dswanick]

Land Raider with MM and a WGBL with saga of the hunter in it? plant it in a forest, and you've got a lasscannon base with a 2+ coversave :D

 

WGBL can't attach to a Land Raider, so his Stealth wouldn't do anything for its Obscured save.

 

Valerian

doesn't his Stealth 'transfer' to the vehicle he's riding?

No.

"STEALTH

The ability to make maximum use of available cover has saved many a warrior from discovery and death. All of the unit's cover saves are improved by +1.", BRB, Pg.76

An IC can't form a unit with Vehicles.

[matt01price]

Thanks for all of the advice so far :D

 

Slight tweak to the question - which add on to the above base/core would you be more afraid of/have most trouble dealing with? options 1/2/3 from the above or something like a tooled up Lone wolf and a group of thunderwolves?

 

Cheers

 

Matt

[Buliwyf]

Thanks for all of the advice so far :blink:

 

Slight tweak to the question - which add on to the above base/core would you be more afraid of/have most trouble dealing with? options 1/2/3 from the above or something like a tooled up Lone wolf and a group of thunderwolves?

 

Cheers

 

Matt

 

"which add on to the above base/core would you be more afraid of?"

 

Thunder Wolves, even a pack of 3.

2 TWC + 2 Storm Shields + Thunder Hammer

Wolf Lord + Mount + Storm Shield

 

365 points right there. Find a few extra points (Drop LasCannons?) and you can kit your Lord out with a Frost Weapon, too.

 

EDIT:

Or take two Scout squads. I like to do that, sometimes. 5-man Squad + Melta = 85 and a 6-man Squad with 2 Power Weapons = 120. You add on some Wolf Guard Battle Leaders (Power Fist + Combi Melta) at 43 a pop, you have a smooth 291, and 82 more points for you to play with.

[matt01price]

thanks for the reply :)

 

I think if I took something like skyclaws over thunderwolves I'd regret it so that option seems tempting. How well have the scouts been working for you?

 

Thanks again to all

 

Matt

[starwolf117]

You can even look into swiftclaw bikers. I find them way overlooked and pretty effective if you attach a wolf priest imo.

[Buliwyf]

If you pick SkyClaws over TWC, you will regret it. No one puts "big nasty" on the board quite like the wolves do, and that's TWC all over.

 

Scouts are almost always game changers, they win me games, but they are not something to put all your hope and faith in. They will, inevitably come in the turn you don't need them or on the side you least want at least a couple times. They have practically torn through armies, but they've also come in turn 4 or 5 on the far side of the board and done nothing the duration of the game (though, to be fair, they rarely give away the victory point).

 

With 2 packs, it works well because I don't have to rely on just one, and so I'm maximizing more chances for those Scouts to come in where/when I need them. I play my army surgically, and the Scouts do really well in my overall strategy. Not to mention, they scare opponents and force their tanks/infantry into the middle of the board where Wolves do really well.