The Unremembered Empire

[amaze07]

As A-D-B Said it's very unlikely,

But I would love if they moved the setting on and bring in the reincarnated emp,a lot of people wouldn't like that,but that's my opinion!

[Crimson Hawk]

Lets be honest, there's a million things it could be;

Squats

Necrons

Eldar

the Dark Age of Technology

Old Ones

Slann

and 999994 other things- Brainboyz, Enslavers, anything!

 

Although I would like to see a BL novel about the Emprah's comeback, although that will never happen :)

[Karrious]

The necrons wake up on mass and tear everyone everywhere apart.

[Kol Saresk]

As A-D-B Said it's very unlikely,

But I would love if they moved the setting on and bring in the reincarnated emp,a lot of people wouldn't like that,but that's my opinion!

The problem is would they reincarnate him or would they kill him off? What else will they do? And that's why they'll never do it. Because like you said, a lot of people would not like however they advance the timeline. They will lose a decent-sized portion of the fanbase no matter what they do.

[Conn Eremon]

Come on guys. Like AD-B said, you're better than this. It's called The Unremembered Empire. Obviously it's about the War in Heaven between the C'tan-led Necrons and Old Ones-led Eldar.

[malika666]

Hmm, what about those stories about the rise of Abaddon A-D-B had been talking about? Maybe Dan is also joining in there?

[MordentHex]

Legs, I can imagine Dan writing a follow up on the Ultramarines has about as much appeal as having your manhood dragged through ground glass.

I'm putting that in my sig, seriously i laughed for 5 minutes when i read that.

 

Interex maybe??? no one has mentioned that yet.

[sponsra]

Sooo, for the second time in this thread: Unremembered Empire is not the secret project. Unremembered Empire is Dans next HH-book.

[Epistolary Exander]

I hope to see more of Dantioch and his loyalist Iron Warriors in this novel :lol:.

[Olis]

sponsra is right: It's a follow up to KNF.

[Amadeus Baal]

Ahh nice one Olisredan, Dan's books are always epic, am looking forward to it. Like some of the other have mentioned I think it would be cool to see a book from before the great crusade, such as when the Necron's were in power, the Dark Age of Technology or perhaps on Terra itself before the rise of the Emperor.

[Veteran Sergeant]

I wonder what that big secret is. Is it something related to the lost legions?

 

It's not about the Lost Legions. It's never about the Lost Legions. It never will be about the Lost Legions, unless there are massive shake-ups at GW.

I'm glad you said that, heh.

 

I know you can't give an answer to this either way, but it's my hypothesis that there's actually NO current fluff on the missing legions. That they exist literally only as an internal mandate that they don't exist anymore, and nobody talks about them other than indirectly.

 

 

 

I'd love for it to be about Squats. But that's just because the idea is hilarious.

[Retributis]

Of course there's no fluff for the lost legions. Why would they create fluff for something that would never be told?

 

Sure, some people in GW will have ideas of what they might like or imagine them to be but to have actually written down and catalogued what they are/were would influence writers, whether consciously or subconsciously, by dint of it's very existence and thus risk undoing the very thing they want to achieve.

[Artein]

From what I know it's about surviving UMs under the surface of Calth + the title = they've found something there, some ruins or something....

[Perrin]

The BL Blog entry that it's mentioned in says that it's a HH book, but haven't seen anywhere that says it's a sequal to KNF, though maybe I missed something, I only looked at Dan's blog and the BL blog.

The Last Church was a HH book set before even the Great Crusade, maybe this could be the end of the Eldar? The War in Heaven would be a really good story with the new Necron fluff giving them personalities, but it would suit better if it was a series of it's own spanning 3 or 6 books, rather than making something up to tie it to the HH.

I'm going for either a Legion/Primarch origin story (possible RG) or the end of the Eldar/Slaanesh birth/start of the Emperor's expansion.

[Conn Eremon]

Of course there's no fluff for the lost legions. Why would they create fluff for something that would never be told?

 

Sure, some people in GW will have ideas of what they might like or imagine them to be but to have actually written down and catalogued what they are/were would influence writers, whether consciously or subconsciously, by dint of it's very existence and thus risk undoing the very thing they want to achieve.

 

The fact that the Alpha Legion Primarch is split into twins is fluff that's been around since the earliest days of the Alpha Legion fluff, and yet has only recently been revealed, if Alan Merritt is to be believed, is an example of that actually being the case. So the idea that they've created fluff that has never been told isn't all that far-fetched, as up to when the twins were introduced in the Horus Heresy series they were just that.

 

However, I seem to recall someone authoritative (maybe AD-B, maybe someone else, can't really remember that detail) saying that the Lost Legions don't have any fluff period. Unlike the Alpha Twins, the Lost Legions aren't hidden fluff yet to be introduced. Though their primary use for 40k fans tends to be avoided by these same fans, and despite the fact that there's an easier, better way to do the same thing but with Chapters, they are kept as blank templates specifically for the purpose of letting everyone make it up for their own thing.

[DIDM]

He mentioned games workshop working on secret stuff to perhaps hes doing a novel which centers on a new race GW is working on.

 

 

yessir

 

 

a race that will turn the favor towards humanity, our BFFs so to say

[DIDM]

As A-D-B Said it's very unlikely,

But I would love if they moved the setting on and bring in the reincarnated emp,a lot of people wouldn't like that,but that's my opinion!

The problem is would they reincarnate him or would they kill him off? What else will they do? And that's why they'll never do it. Because like you said, a lot of people would not like however they advance the timeline. They will lose a decent-sized portion of the fanbase no matter what they do.

 

 

ascend to actual Godhood

[Amadeus Baal]

I saw this in

Faeit 212

"A discovery of galactic importance has happened.

 

At a time before right before the Horus Heresy the Emperor had intrusted Roboute Guilliman in the protection of one Xenos race that was completely immune the temptations of Chaos and would prove the ultimate key to the destruction of Chaos. The Horus Heresy ended such plans. Fast forward today with discovery of these lost correspondences, it is believed by the Ultramarines and others that the Tau are that lost race. So now instead of being charge with their destruction the Astartes are the Tau protectors."

 

Just a wild rumour? The unremembered Empire? A follow up to KNF? A serious change to the Tau background?

[Olis]

...it is believed by the Ultramarines and others that the Tau are that lost race. So now instead of being charge with their destruction the Astartes are the Tau protectors.

 

I think, up to this point, the passage was believable. With this sentence and a half, to me, it lost all credibility. I hope it's not true, is all I can say.

[calgar101]

I... No, Just no. If this is true well...

[Kol Saresk]

But the Tau believe themselves to be the youngest races both culturally and technologically. The only difference between them and Humanity, other than no significant psychic imprint, is how fast the Tau have progressed technologically. IIRC, back when the Grey Knights were part of the Daemonhunters army, there was a scenario where you would hunt down a Tau Ethereal that was possessed by a Lord of Change. So I think they are more highly resistant to Chaos, but not wholly immune to it. Even Pariahs can be corrupted.

[Conn Eremon]

The only difference between them and Humanity, other than no significant psychic imprint, is how fast the Tau have progressed technologically.

 

How so? We don't really know the timeline for when Humanity expanded outwards, only that it was mostly congruous with our reality up to present day. We went from medieval to space capable in under a millennia, and we started colonizing outside of our system a millennia later. The Tau went from that war-locked medieval age to tiny Space Empire in a few millennia. That's pretty close to one another.

 

If you want to find a point where the Tau differentiated from Humanity in regards to technology, you shouldn't be looking at either of those two. Humanity didn't come into contact with Xenos for a very long time. The Tau, however, did very early. So it's not the case of one outpacing the other, but one getting a boost where the other didn't.

[Liquidice]

A few things that could be the big secret thing.

 

Fulfillment of the void dragon prophecy hinted upon at the end of mechanicum.

Return of a Primarch

Stories about the events that led to the loyalist primarchs dying/leaving

Black Crusade series that includes night lords vs. eldar, black legion vs. everyone

The Golden Throne finally goes dead

 

Or the best novel ever made...

 

Ibram Guant vs. Eisenhorn vs. Ravenor vs. Ciaphus Cain vs. Ahriman

[Kol Saresk]

I'm saying look at their Space Age technology compared to the Imperium's. It's been 38,000 years since current time(roughly) and the Imperium has forgotten more technology then its invented. For war purposes, they rely on solid shot ammunition(some of which are large caliber, high explosive rounds that we know as bolter rounds) and basic laser weaponry. Most of the Imperium's "advanced" technology is mostly limited to large-scale weaponry(Such as the big giant cannons on tracks whose name I forget at the moment) is mostly misunderstood. I believe the Titans are the only things bigger than tanks which are regularly built. Of course regularly is relative to how long it actually take to build a Titan. Anything like ships, take decades if not centuries to build. But here are the Tau, in the few millenia they have been around, they have not only caught up with Imperial technology, but are surpassing it. They have hover technology on just about every vehicle. They mass produce exo-skeletons that can probably go toe-to-toe with Space Marine Power Armor if it was ever equipped for close combat. They're closer to the Golden/Dark Age of Technology. Doesn't the fluff say our Golden/Dark Age was around the 20th Millenium or so? And the Tau are what, at their 8th Millenium or so? Their "Dark Ages" was at the beginning of their race, not in the middle of it.

 

Yes, we went from riding horses to going to the moon and launching space probes. And then we stopped building and sending shuttles and stick to rockets, which is backtracking in technological terms. Or at least the USA did. I'd be lying if I said I kept up with the international space exploration programs. The Tau have done the same thing. In less time. Not only have they done that, but they surpassed. Not once has the fluff recorded them stagnating, or even slowing down. IIRC, the BFG fluff said that initially their ships were meant only for exploration, but started to equip them with weapons after a few hostile encounters with the Imperial Navy and are supposed to be reaching a formidable level of weaponry. The fluff says they keep advancing at an accelerated rate.