Zynk Kaladin Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Although I am relatively new to the BA codex, I must agree that a full assault squad with 2 meltaguns and a powerfist with a priest is THE bread and butter unit for a competitive jumper list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3075252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 That's two units though ;-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3075283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 That's two units though ;-) Bread and butter. Plus they make such a cute couple, death machines of the Emperor notwithstanding. My opinion might change once I figure out how to run Death Co. in my list effectively. DC are so metal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3075292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 DC are so metal. You know that GW has a plastic Blood Angels kit that makes some pretty good plastic Death Company right? :) DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3075334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 You know that GW has a plastic Blood Angels kit that makes some pretty good plastic Death Company right? :D DV8 I mean this kind of . :P I have some brutal jump pack DC in the works from the plastic kits with an awesome DIY lemartes idea, but apparently JP DC aren't as competitive as their rhino-born brethren. I was thinking of magnetizing the packs, but they never seem to stay on right so I'm stickin' with rule of cool! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3075690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 II was thinking of magnetizing the packs, but they never seem to stay on right so I'm stickin' with rule of cool! There's a few ways you can go about it, without getting the packs to shuffle around: Magnetize above the nub, so that the nub holds it in place. Magnetize at the nub, and put a pin above so that the pin holds it in place. Double magnet (so it's like an 8). DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3075710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Hmm, I may try the double magnet idea for added support. Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3075912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 6 assault marines powerfist melta heavy bolter razorback 155pts It might lose combat against somethings, but its can out run them or out shoot them. It might be outshot by somethings, but it will run them down and slaughter them in combat. If I had the cash, that would be my troops sorted (maybe a death company) Add in a couple of ravens, with termies, and it will be glorious Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3076124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Switch that heavy bolter for a twin assault cannon and yeah Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3076310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 6 assault marinespowerfist melta heavy bolter razorback 155pts It might lose combat against somethings, but its can out run them or out shoot them. It might be outshot by somethings, but it will run them down and slaughter them in combat. If I had the cash, that would be my troops sorted (maybe a death company) Add in a couple of ravens, with termies, and it will be glorious Points are off by a little. Did you mean a 5 man squad, as your points are perfect for a 5 man squad. Its a good unit, I'd prefer to pay a little more for an improved Razorback turret (Las/Plas or Twin Las or Twin AC) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3076313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Nar I meant 6, I changed my mind about the extra after totting up the pts :P ASScannons just throw the price up a little high for my tastes The melta and the fist can pop tanks more reliably, from my POV, the cannons just hoping for rending. But it depends deeply on the rest of the army, for which reason, I agree with the original premise of "silly question" :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3076510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 The H Bolter is just crap. If you don't want to go for asscannons, take a heavy flamer turret instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3076588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 The H Bolter is just crap. If you don't want to go for asscannons, take a heavy flamer turret instead. Validation/Justification pleasey!! Opinions are merely droplets of water in an ocean of don't care. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3076631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 oddly tanks are the only place i dont favour flamers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3076644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kem Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 The H Bolter is just crap. If you don't want to go for asscannons, take a heavy flamer turret instead. used'em, found useless. It's a way better to shoot for 5 turns with TLHB at ANY (=more valuable) target you want, then cover 3-4 models in closest unit with that template once or twice per game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3076667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec.ops Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Most competitive unit...In what circumstances? I'm ass-uming you mean the most competitive unit in a take-all-comers general build? If that is the case it is the RAS with a Priest imo. As for the load out...well that's when things get very very subjective. And, most efficient unit imo goes to attack bikes. ... Note, DC seem like they would rank up their but since they have to field a delivery system it makes them a tad expensive. lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3076719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Drop Pods are cheap, rhinos are cheap, even ravens and raiders arent expensive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3076836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 The H Bolter is just crap. If you don't want to go for asscannons, take a heavy flamer turret instead. used'em, found useless. It's a way better to shoot for 5 turns with TLHB at ANY (=more valuable) target you want, then cover 3-4 models in closest unit with that template once or twice per game. If you had a gun with anything resembling a decent damage output, I would agree. The HB just doesn't deliver on that front. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253313-most-competitive-unit-available/page/2/#findComment-3077036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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