facmanpob Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Who do I like least? Well, it depends on what you mean by like/dislike.......I dislike the character of Erebus, because he is the cause of all the trouble and strife, and he gets me wound up with his constant interfering......but for exactly those reasons I love him as a character as well! ;) Kor Phaeron, on the other hand, just annoys me! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3075012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Baal Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 I'm with you facmanpob on this one! Erebus for all the trouble he caused, so much damage done by someone who isn't even a Primarch. He's very well done though in the books, a great villain. For some reason he reminds me of Peter Mandleson the MP, not sure why. Kor Phaeron too, though he's obviously very powerful now. He sure put RG in his place. He was moments away from winning the war in KNF and dealing a huge blow to the loyalists but he completely blew it! He obviously had never watched a James Bond film. I must admit that the Emperor constantly annoys, frustrates and surprises me. Though for a man that has the will and ability to engineer something like the great crusade, his single mindedness, arrogance and ruthlessness shouldn't really surprise me. At least he appears to do the "right" thing at the end I guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3075023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkchild130 Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Erebus is cool as hell, dont understand all the hate. Eidolon is a massive tw*t and I'm glad he's dead. EDIT: it seems the swear filter doesn't recognise some British slurs. Darkchild Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3075027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirnov Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 I can hardly name a character I dislike on a regular basis, just because there is so much written about major characters, that there ought to be something that I like about each one of them. But i surely dislike the portrayal of some characters in Heresy books. For example, I disliked how Erebus was portrayed in first Heresy books. You read the book, tension grows, you feel that right now one of the villians will be revealed... The door opens, enter Erebus. The other book, one of the character ask 'who can be behind all this?!' The door open, enter Erebus. On the other hand, I really started to like Lucius much less. Mostly due to the character of loyal Emperor's Children. Lucius turned out to be a spoilt child with no backbone and a lot of self-love. I can also name Angron, before Butcher's Nail's. I really look forvard to Betrayer on his account. Oh, and 'I always hated you, Xaphen'. Disliked him from the start. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3075036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Keyaetus Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Oh yeah, the false emperor too, dont like him, never will :) Death to the false emperor! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3075221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 The Emperor. Builds his empire with genocide and ignorance. Thinks he is the good guy. "We are the Imperium of Man and we do not come in peace. Abandon your heathen ways and embrace the Imperial truth. Fall to your knees and surrender your world, your people and your future. Swear eternal loyalty to the glorious Emperor of Mankind or die." Except he doesn't even have the balls to do it like that, he uses iterators and euphemisms and lies. "We are the Imperium of Man and we come in peace. Great honour has fallen upon the people of your world. We are sending our ambassadors to advise you of the transition towards compliance." Its like murderous, lying, door to door salesmen in space. The emperor is the greatest scumbag tyrant in all of 40k, he's also a blockhead when it comes to his sons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3075384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Eidolon. Second.... The Cabal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3075396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Sergeant Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 I'd say my least favorite is Angron. He's just a terrible character, all the way around. None of his fluff makes any sense. He was a cardstock villain from a bygone era who, sadly, is too central to 40K canon to get rid of. Sort of like Boomer from Battlestar Galactica. Grace Park is a terrible actress who ruined almost every scene she was in that required her to evoke any emotion, but her character was unfortunately central to the plot and couldn't just be killed off. Angron is like the Grace Park of 40K. He's nice to look at with all of his axes and angryness, but he's an utter failure of a character. I haven't gotten around to Butcher's Nails yet, but it would be a Herculean feat to have made him even remotely three dimensional, or to give him a rational reason for existing as a primarch in charge of a Legion. The Emperor. Builds his empire with genocide and ignorance. Thinks he is the good guy. "We are the Imperium of Man and we do not come in peace. Abandon your heathen ways and embrace the Imperial truth. Fall to your knees and surrender your world, your people and your future. Swear eternal loyalty to the glorious Emperor of Mankind or die." Except he doesn't even have the balls to do it like that, he uses iterators and euphemisms and lies. "We are the Imperium of Man and we come in peace. Great honour has fallen upon the people of your world. We are sending our ambassadors to advise you of the transition towards compliance." Its like murderous, lying, door to door salesmen in space. The emperor is the greatest scumbag tyrant in all of 40k, he's also a blockhead when it comes to his sons. I think that's kind of the point though. 40K isn't supposed to have any "good guys". The Imperium of Man is self-righteous, in a very Manifest Destiny sort of way (I'm sure you Yurps have a term for it since you spent centuries trying to conquer as much of the world as you could discover, lol). The IoM is supposed to echo the way human civilizations have been, as far back as history records, with a bit of exaggeration of course because 40K hates being too subtle. However, what's the alternative? Chaos? The IoM may be pretty gray, but everything about Chaos is evil. The Eldar were decadent and arrogant, so they aren't exactly good guys either. Definetely pathetic Lorgar, followed by Leman Russ, all Wolves - the mutants of Fenris and Erebus As a person, I look down on Lorgar because he was spineless, weak, and craved attention and validation and fell to Chaos because he didn't get any love from Daddy. But he's been well written so far, so I can't imagine calling him my least favorite character. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3075414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 @veteran Yeah I agree with you, but he is my most disliked character for those reasons. He often gets depicted as a golden benevolent being though, which is lol. ADB did pretty well with Angron, he is still a wind up rage machine, but it is pretty well explained. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3075989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 My least favorite characters in the series so far have been the Imperial Fists and Dorn outside of Horus Rising and the Last Rememberancer. Nothing like my interpretation of them. Its very hard to write about them I guess, because they aren't exactly 'professional' like the Ultramarines, 'Perfectionists' like the Emperor's Children, or 'Talented' like the Luna Wolves. Im really looking forward to John French's new short to see how he does them. If he was responsible for the IF and BT info in the FFG source books I have faith in him, and his story about the Last Rememberancer was the front runner for Imperial Fists so far, simple because it was more about Dorn. You could definietly feel him starting down the path thatg led to the Scouring, the uncertainty and doubt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3076004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Erebus. He was the one who took advantage of our weaknesses for his gain. An eternity under the tender ministrations of the Dark Eldar wouldn't be enough of a punishment for him. I also detest the Emperor's Children, but seeing as how Fulgrim has received his own just rewards, I can focus all my fury upon those who would align with the Word Bearers. No mercy for Erebus in the least bit. My blood pressure goes up just thinking about him. From a writing perspective, I think his portrayal is just brilliant. The authors have done a marvelous job of evoking strong emotions around him...at least for me. But, no mercy for him at all. Cheers, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3076048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrolleif Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Fulgrim, Lorgar, Kor Phaeron, and Erebus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3076292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Ohthere Wyrdmake. He is the most titanic B) ever given a suit of power armour. I was practically cheering when he got nom-nomed by daemons Have to agree there. What really sealed it for me was when he started going on about how the Nikea Edict didn't apply to him, because he's just that special. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3076678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Ohthere Wyrdmake. He is the most titanic :cuss ever given a suit of power armour. I was practically cheering when he got nom-nomed by daemons Ooooh, I can't believe I forgot about that treacherous, lying, wretch of a deluded whoreson. Changing my answer to him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3077246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearingtheword Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 My list: The Emperor - He is such a fascist, callous bastard.... Lucius- Spoiled, arrogant 'tard Eidolon- absolutely arrogant and annoying The Custodes from TFH - Bunch of jackbooted fascist thugs in golden armour Malcador the Sigilite - not exactly sure why but just don't like him, hehe Guilliman - but he did impress me in KNF Most disappointing character: Maloghurst the twisted. With such a cool name I expected so much more out of him from the moment he was introduced. I truly love Erebus, such skillful manipulation is just inspiring. Kor Phaeron, I am on the fence about. His personally jealousies and rivalry with Erebus prevented him from succeeding against RG, but it does provide such an interesting backdrop for the Word Bearers in the 41st Millenium (sp). ~BtW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3077274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearingtheword Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 My list: The Emperor - He is such a fascist, callous bastard.... Lucius- Spoiled, arrogant 'tard Eidolon- absolutely arrogant and annoying The Custodes from TFH - Bunch of jackbooted fascist thugs in golden armour Malcador the Sigilite - not exactly sure why but just don't like him, hehe Guilliman - but he did impress me in KNF Most disappointing character: Maloghurst the twisted. With such a cool name I expected so much more out of him from the moment he was introduced. I truly love Erebus, such skillful manipulation is just inspiring. Kor Phaeron, I am on the fence about. His personally jealousies and rivalry with Erebus prevented him from succeeding against RG, but it does provide such an interesting backdrop for the Word Bearers in the 41st Millenium (sp). ~BtW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3077275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I'd say my least favorite is Angron. He's just a terrible character, all the way around. None of his fluff makes any sense. He was a cardstock villain from a bygone era who, sadly, is too central to 40K canon to get rid of. Sort of like Boomer from Battlestar Galactica. Grace Park is a terrible actress who ruined almost every scene she was in that required her to evoke any emotion, but her character was unfortunately central to the plot and couldn't just be killed off. Angron is like the Grace Park of 40K. He's nice to look at with all of his axes and angryness, but he's an utter failure of a character. I haven't gotten around to Butcher's Nails yet, but it would be a Herculean feat to have made him even remotely three dimensional, or to give him a rational reason for existing as a primarch in charge of a Legion. Recommend giving Butcher's Nails a go. I had a lot of the same reservations about Angron, but I really think ADB did a good job of making the character more interesting than what he has been before. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3077491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mactire Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 That captain of the luna wolves/sons of wh###s wholead the assault squads. was actually glad that the assassin in nemisis blew his head off instead of horus. come to think of it horus is another grade one a-hole, has everything but still falls for all chaos lies and then cant even win the bloody civil war, allied with the creatures of the warp and still takes 7 years to get to terra, what a waster!!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3077839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 +1 for Wyrdmake. He was well-written, he was just kind of a d-bag for that whole "I'm not psychic, it's not sorcery" shennastigating that he and the rest of the Rune Priests pulled. On the flip side of that coin, I used to not like Ahriman, but A Thousand Sons changed all that, and now he's one of my favorites. As for Primarchs, Lorgar is my least favorite. I'm always happy to see the intensely arrogant brought low, but we really do have him and his emo-ness to blame for the Heresy. Weak-willed scum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3077872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Can't actually think a single character that I thought "I really don't like you..." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3077876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortysl Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Fulgrim for sure. There's just something very wrong about instructing your son on the best method for inserting/utilising a torture device up your backside. I know it's an Emperor's Children/Slaanesh thing, but I can't stand them either. That, and he's a useless sack of maggot puke anyway; the only reason he beat Ferrus Manus is because he had a bloody Daemon inside him! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3077880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorganov Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 As a person, I look down on Lorgar because he was spineless, weak, and craved attention and validation and fell to Chaos because he didn't get any love from Daddy. But he's been well written so far, so I can't imagine calling him my least favorite character. This thread is called Least Favorite Character, not Least Written Character ;) The autor wants you to hate Erebus, Kor Phaeron, Ezekyle, because they are canonicaly Evil and MEAN characters. Therefore you realy hate them. If you hate them, they are well written. They bring the emotion into the book. So to continue - Horus is sort of Idiot, and whole turn to chaos sequence is totaly stupid. Its like Star Wars 3: Master he is Evil Sith! OK Anakin stays here... Sorry Master I have to kill you, my wife will die during birth of the twins. Perfect, now when I switch my alignment to chaotic evil, I am going to kill a lot of children MUHEHEHEHE Father I have no Statues, I will turn to Chaos. And kill you... ^_^? This is one of the worse plot twist ever. Even we all know it will come. And as I like the Legion book even here the decision is taken based upon ONE vision. Sorry Alpharius, u are greater tactical genius of the time, but you are so so Naive. So whole the Cabal think I dont like as well. Emperor is even bigger idiot and I am constantly wandering, how should he build an empire when he is so so blind. Naive, and dumb. And I dont like him as well as even minor character in the books. What do u think the other will do if you will: * destroy the planet considered paradise and punish you in front of others and says sorry my son, but you are such a disappoiment, all you have done is wrong... * take a honor-bound warrior from within his brethren condemned to death and let him watch the dying, and says i need you fighting * born a son with genetic precondition to be Magus and forbbid him to be it, and then send the archenemy and nemesis to keep him in custody... * born a son with genetic precondition to be bloodthirsty Hunter-Killer, and after centuries you use him as some sort of Exterminatus without cyclone torpedoes you will say to him: Konrad you are so evil, you cant kill millions perosnaly, just use Exterminatus, it is good. Killing with the claws I gave you is wrong... So Horus and Emperor are on my list of least favorite character, jsut becasue of stupidity. And I dont know if the Black Library editors thinks the same about us, the readers. On the list are Corax, Erebus, Kor Phaeron, Lion El Johnson, all the beer mongrels from Fenris. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3077881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestat Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Being a Dark Angel player, I hate to say this but - The Lion is one First Class A-hole! I mean, smacking one of your Legion for questioning you or having another killed on a whim - I would rather turn Traitor than follow that guy into battle. And the Cabal are just damned annoying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3078701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryphaus 101 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Being a Dark Angel player, I hate to say this but - The Lion is one First Class A-hole! I mean, smacking one of your Legion for questioning you or having another killed on a whim - I would rather turn Traitor than follow that guy into battle. And the Cabal are just damned annoying. *cough*Follow Luther*cough* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3079116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Being a Dark Angel player, I hate to say this but - The Lion is one First Class A-hole! I mean, smacking one of your Legion for questioning you or having another killed on a whim - I would rather turn Traitor than follow that guy into battle. And the Cabal are just damned annoying. Considering the situation they were in, killing Nemiel was understandable. I was rather disturbed by the description of Lion's face after the deed. Apparently, he was gleeful and perversely enjoyed the act. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253339-least-favorite-character/page/2/#findComment-3079119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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