Captain Juan Juarez Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 A giant pegasus, wolf-style? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3077770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 walking was good enough for Russ so it's good enough for his sons right :lol: God I hate that fluff from the 3rd ed. dex which they pulled from the nethers. Don't assume SW players really believe or care about the proposed fear of flying. :wub: The Sky Warriors have a fear of flying? :lol: Yea, you know the guys who leave their home world, fly throughspace, get shot out of tubs in barrels, go toe to toe with daemons, wield the power of storms, ride around in thunderhawks, yet are afraid to fly/pilot another type of gunship? Ya, you know, the guys who know no fear. Yes, you know them. The ones that are afraid of teleportation! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3077780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Tekka Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I'm thinking what we'll see is a list of chapter specific variants coming out for the storm talon similar to how the contemptor dread is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3077825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I'm thinking what we'll see is a list of chapter specific variants coming out for the storm talon similar to how the contemptor dread is. I'm thinking we won't see a damn. Remember all that fuss with Stormraven, like there will a WD with an update so all SM Chapters will be allowed to use it, not only Grey Knights and Blood Angels? Where was that WD? It never came into existance. Same pattern for StormTalon. mark my words. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3077879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimir Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I'm thinking we won't see a damn. Remember all that fuss with Stormraven, like there will a WD with an update so all SM Chapters will be allowed to use it, not only Grey Knights and Blood Angels? Where was that WD? It never came into existance. Same pattern for StormTalon. mark my words. True. Well, we can settle for that Leman Russ, GW. We're reasonable :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3077922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godhead Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I can understand teleportation. That is not the same as flying.....dematerializing and the rematerializing somewhere else (quite possibly in side a mountain). Is completely different than flying right at or possibly into the mountain. We wolves like to see things coming. :D. I'm not pressed about if we did or did not get the stormraven/stormtalon/landspeederstorm/thunderfirecannon/yadayadayada, i'm just peeved about a wee bit of fluff that doesn't make sense when you look at the big picture. Fleets of spaceships that warp from one place to another (space wolves even have special priveleges when it comes to their relationship with navigator house), wholesale planetary destruction, the thing of nightmares becoming real and tangible, yet space wolves don't fly? Really? How do we propose to do our jobs? Thumb a ride? Take the bus? It's a paradox in logic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3077931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt01price Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Could this 'fear of flying' stem from a dislike of not being the master of one's own fate rather than actual fear. Example - you can get shot out of the sky/void by the opposition without your average grey hunter (or Russ himself) being able to do anything what-so-ever about it :no: . The same applies to teleportation - no wolf wants to materialise half way through a floor/wall, their culture really focuses dying under the blades of the enemy... dying with red snow at their feet and wounds to the fore. At least you can duck when on foot... or run faster at the enemy :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3077958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 ... or run faster at the enemy :) when did space wolves get access to the ork armory??? i want red paint!!! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3077983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 ... or run faster at the enemy :) when did space wolves get access to the ork armory??? i want red paint!!! ;) He seems to have mistaken us for the Blood Angels. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3077985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt01price Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 nah wolf though and through me - maybe I should have said lope instead of run... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3078025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 We've had a bit of a fluff deviation here- Space Wolves have never had a fear of flying, hence the use of Land Speeders, Thunderhawks, Drop Pods, Strike Cruisers, and Battle Barges. Adding additional aircraft to this list with a possible new release does nothing against established background material. Space Wolves differ from all other Astartes in two big ways (that are relevant to this discussion): 1) they prefer not to teleport, and 2) they prefer not to use Jump Packs. The later is often justified with the catchphrase, "prefer to fight on their feet as Russ intended". This cannot be taken as a serious and literal prohibition, however, as many Space Wolves units don't actually fight on their "feet", including: Armoured vehicle crews, Swift Claws, Thunderwolf Cavalry, Speeder pilots, etc. We should take the "as Russ intended" motto as it was designed, which, according to Jervis himself was simply to restrict use of teleportation and to reduce use of Jump Infantry, as a simple army list design feature that he included to offset all of the many advantages that he had given Space Wolves over other Marines, such as Acute Senses, True Grit, and Counterattack. Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3078086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonSTeR Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Space Wolves riding... giant flying dragons... that breathe fire... and have laser beam eyes... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3078232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reichfaust Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I am certain GW will want marine players of all chapters to buy their big shiny expensive flyer kits, so I would not be surprised if both the Stormraven AND Stormtalon get FAQ'd or something into our codex in 6th edition. After seeing some of the fantastic conversions that people have done to both of these models I can safely say I want 'em both! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3078312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vor Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I am certain GW will want marine players of all chapters to buy their big shiny expensive flyer kits, so I would not be surprised if both the Stormraven AND Stormtalon get FAQ'd or something into our codex in 6th edition. After seeing some of the fantastic conversions that people have done to both of these models I can safely say I want 'em both! :) Raven perhaps, but why bother with the Talon? I mean, if rumours are true, 6th will be out about a month after the Talon. Why not just give it us right off the bat in the case? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3078317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Can we have Land Krakken please? :( you know... like tomb scorpions from WHFB .. but you know <.< krakken ..? In all seriousness though, i agree that i don't think we will see anything new for a long while. They gave us our thundercav/arjac/etc and now we won't see anything for a while. Especially since the dress wearers seem like they are going to be the new poster boys in 6th.. ..oh well, more of them to kill :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3078363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I also believe that GW will want our money for their little Cardboard-boxtalon model, but like Valerian already pointed out, we where supposed to see the update giving all Astartes access to the Stormchicken. We never saw it. And since marines take up a large chunk of playable armies in the 40K universe, it does only make sence that we just might see a flying something in the near future, but do we really need it?? I don't think so. What we need are new sculpts for ancient hero's who are begining to show their age... I suppose that is a tad off topic, but what I am saying is this: I waited two goddamn years for GW to release Thunderwolf Cavalry, I'll be damned if I am going to hold my breath that long ever again. End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3078867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pall Ironbear Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Can't see a GW FAQ to bring flyers into every codex. Especially as they would lose sales, I mean, you'd have to buy a GK or BA army if you want to play the Storm Chicken. Vanilla marines for the Storm Brick. And of course, once you've bought the Chicken you then need the nipple wing, Death Co,Paladins, Draigo etc..... Me, cynical? Yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3078960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Well said a common mistake many We've had a bit of a fluff deviation here- Space Wolves have never had a fear of flying, hence the use of Land Speeders, Thunderhawks, Drop Pods, Strike Cruisers, and Battle Barges. Adding additional aircraft to this list with a possible new release does nothing against established background material. Space Wolves differ from all other Astartes in two big ways (that are relevant to this discussion): 1) they prefer not to teleport, and 2) they prefer not to use Jump Packs. The later is often justified with the catchphrase, "prefer to fight on their feet as Russ intended". This cannot be taken as a serious and literal prohibition, however, as many Space Wolves units don't actually fight on their "feet", including: Armoured vehicle crews, Swift Claws, Thunderwolf Cavalry, Speeder pilots, etc. We should take the "as Russ intended" motto as it was designed, which, according to Jervis himself was simply to restrict use of teleportation and to reduce use of Jump Infantry, as a simple army list design feature that he included to offset all of the many advantages that he had given Space Wolves over other Marines, such as Acute Senses, True Grit, and Counterattack. Valerian Well said it appears though that lot of players are under that misunderstanding. Also Emperors Gift demostrates Space wolves will teleport if they have to they just hate the sensation(not fear it) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3079029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Well said a common mistake many We've had a bit of a fluff deviation here- Space Wolves have never had a fear of flying, hence the use of Land Speeders, Thunderhawks, Drop Pods, Strike Cruisers, and Battle Barges. Adding additional aircraft to this list with a possible new release does nothing against established background material. Space Wolves differ from all other Astartes in two big ways (that are relevant to this discussion): 1) they prefer not to teleport, and 2) they prefer not to use Jump Packs. The later is often justified with the catchphrase, "prefer to fight on their feet as Russ intended". This cannot be taken as a serious and literal prohibition, however, as many Space Wolves units don't actually fight on their "feet", including: Armoured vehicle crews, Swift Claws, Thunderwolf Cavalry, Speeder pilots, etc. We should take the "as Russ intended" motto as it was designed, which, according to Jervis himself was simply to restrict use of teleportation and to reduce use of Jump Infantry, as a simple army list design feature that he included to offset all of the many advantages that he had given Space Wolves over other Marines, such as Acute Senses, True Grit, and Counterattack. Valerian Well said it appears though that lot of players are under that misunderstanding. Also Emperors Gift demostrates Space wolves will teleport if they have to they just hate the sensation(not fear it) They also did in one of the Ragnar books IIRC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3079252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provocation Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k614/Provocation88/New%20Space%20Wolves/DSC00251.jpg http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k614/Provocation88/New%20Space%20Wolves/DSC00252.jpg Kit bashed a Storm Talon and a Landspeeder so that I can use my 'Storm Claw' as both. The front of the missile pods are removable and I want to drill and pin a weapon point underneath the cockpit to allow various weapon options. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3080096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt01price Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Now that is a proper flyer!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3080101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k614/Provocation88/New%20Space%20Wolves/DSC00251.jpg http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k614/Provocation88/New%20Space%20Wolves/DSC00252.jpg Kit bashed a Storm Talon and a Landspeeder so that I can use my 'Storm Claw' as both. The front of the missile pods are removable and I want to drill and pin a weapon point underneath the cockpit to allow various weapon options. Wow, that looks pretty cool! Can we get some shot from the sides and at different angles? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3080136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akela Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=471...e=3&theater I feel like Games Workshop going on Flickr and posting pics of Stormtalons is kinda misleading when they show them painted in Space Wolf Gray without any disclaimer like "Officially, Space Wolves can't field this...etc" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3080152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=471...e=3&theater I feel like Games Workshop going on Flickr and posting pics of Stormtalons is kinda misleading when they show them painted in Space Wolf Gray without any disclaimer like "Officially, Space Wolves can't field this...etc" atleast they didnt Ironclad you. i remember our previous, pamphlet codex faq allowing us to have them, so i bought 3. when our official codex came out they magically disapeered. thank Russ everyone here plays space marines, so i traded them off. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3080359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddywarcrimes Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Would be pretty sweet to be able to attach a pair of Storm Talons to a pair of Wolf Scout packs so that I can fly them on from my opponent's board edge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253563-no-stormtalon-for-us-but-what-will-we-get/page/2/#findComment-3080431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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