Vorganov Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Hello what you prefer and what is your experience and tactics with BA Scouts. Do you prefer Sniper Rifles, Shotguns or Bolters? With Red Thirst rule only the shotgun is the option, isnt it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253664-scouts-shotguns-or-bolter/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axira Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Snipers all the way! You get a cheap objective camper unit for 75p! Also, you should add cloaks for the extra Cover (Make sure you are in cover from the start) and ML for the extra punch againt vehicles! (which is the prime target for the snipers) The way I use them is: 6 scouts 5 snipers 1 ML 6 cloaks 118p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253664-scouts-shotguns-or-bolter/#findComment-3078339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorganov Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 And what about the Red Thirst... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253664-scouts-shotguns-or-bolter/#findComment-3078380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Affects them 1/6 games, and makes your sniping objective camping unit fearless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253664-scouts-shotguns-or-bolter/#findComment-3078407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axira Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 And what about the Red Thirst... Only makes them better. I still would not field Scouts as a attack troop, they are only good against light vehicles and holding objectives from camping distance! I don't see why you would take them with anything else considering that there are several troops that can attack and deal out damage much better than the scouts! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253664-scouts-shotguns-or-bolter/#findComment-3078749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightguy Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Right. Red thirst confers Fearless and Furious Charge. I am guessing from your post, but you may have it confused with Black Rage which requires movement toward the nearest visible enemy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253664-scouts-shotguns-or-bolter/#findComment-3078752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorganov Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 Right. Red thirst confers Fearless and Furious Charge. I am guessing from your post, but you may have it confused with Black Rage which requires movement toward the nearest visible enemy. Yeah, black rage, misunderstanding between me and my brother. And they have of course no problem with the rage, as they are not affected. Then of course sniper rifle for objective holding, but what about assaulting Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253664-scouts-shotguns-or-bolter/#findComment-3078776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Right. Red thirst confers Fearless and Furious Charge. I am guessing from your post, but you may have it confused with Black Rage which requires movement toward the nearest visible enemy. Yeah, black rage, misunderstanding between me and my brother. And they have of course no problem with the rage, as they are not affected. Then of course sniper rifle for objective holding, but what about assaulting I'd use Assualt Marine, Vanguard vets, Death Co. , Assault terminators, Honor Guards, Sanguinary Guards, etc. over scouts for assualting any day. I'd use then as last ditch effort if all else was killed, or not near to assist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253664-scouts-shotguns-or-bolter/#findComment-3078795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pararanger Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I mix it up. In a 5 man squad, I always go 4 snipers and 1 ML. If I run a full 10 man squad, I like 5 snipers, 1 ML and 4 bolters. My 9 year old son likes running 4 snipers and a heavy bolter with his Crimson Fists army. He's insanely effective with that set up. He had them camping in a fortified building with camo cloaks and a Thunder Fire Cannon and Techmarine as company. Talk about a pain in the butt to get rid of. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253664-scouts-shotguns-or-bolter/#findComment-3078838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejandrinus Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 After reading the entire topic i was asking me: Scouts as cheap assault unit? i.e.: 10 Scouts with shoot guns or 2 CCW + PFist are 165 + Sang Priest on foot 50 =215 maybe in raven or deploying then near a deepstriking Honour Guard (without the Sang Priest), what do you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253664-scouts-shotguns-or-bolter/#findComment-3079106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 In before the typical "there are better options available" comments. But to answer your question in previous editions many Blood Angel players used to use Scout Squads in this way: as cheap Assault Squads. However they did have WS4 back then... If I were to run an assault-based Scout Squad again then I would have them equipped with Bolt Pistol and Chainsword except for one or two which would have a Shotgun (similar to how I run my Assault Squads [one/two Special Weapons] and Death Company [one/two Bolters]). Obviously you would need to tool up the Sergeant with a Power Fist and maybe a Combi-weapon, while the Priest would need a Power Weapon/Lightning Claw (might as well seeing as it is going to see combat). Vorganov: In my experience Shotguns go with squads you plan to assault with, Sniper Rifles go with squads you plan on holding objectives with (along with a heavy weapon). A Bolter-armed Scout would go in the latter group but these would only be there for adding a bit of punch should you foresee the enemy getting near and for wound allocation games (so maybe one/two Bolters depending on numbers). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253664-scouts-shotguns-or-bolter/#findComment-3079113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Mandatory "there are better options available" comment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253664-scouts-shotguns-or-bolter/#findComment-3079242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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