matt01price Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Hello again folks :sweat: In an effort to get a little more mobility into my 1500pts list I was thinking about including some Land Speeders with MM and HB (I know heavy flamer is reported to be the optimum to coincide with the multi melta but I'm not too fussed about being perfect in terms of optimisation). The conversion idea is based around Morkai's use of scouts (as I'm basing using his company) and rather than using GH for the crew I'd use scouts instead. To do this I'm thinking about taking a land speeder storm, putting a tweaked multi melta in the front (I've got some multi meltas spare from the devastator boxes) and then either just having a scout running around in the passenger compartment with a single heavy bolter (take the scout box) OR build some little HB mounts from sprues in each door and put a bolter on each. I would of course use the argument in games that only 1 HB can fire at a time as they're on opposite sides of the vehicle to stay within the rules. The look I'd be going for is black hawk support gunship with transport capacity (transport capacity for aesthetic purposes only - I know you can't actually use it for a transport using codex-SW) Questions - 1 - What do you think of the idea overall? 2 - Would you be willing to play against these models? AND IF YOU WERE WILLING TO PLAY AGAINST THEM... 3 - Would you be happy for the HBs to be used in a similar way to lascannon mounts on Land Raiders (i.e. 180 degree sponson) or would you simply play as they would be on a regular speeder (mounted under the hull at the front)? any opinions/views would be very much appreciated :) cheers Matt Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253733-conversion-idea/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybnick Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I guess it would be different opponent to opponent but I personally wouldn't have any problem playing them as if they were normal speeders. I really like what your idea too! It's a small but neat twist to make your army feel more representative of your GC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253733-conversion-idea/#findComment-3079315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt01price Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 Thank you :sweat: how would you feel personally about the heavy bolter firing point? at the front or side sponsons? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253733-conversion-idea/#findComment-3079334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Rylanor Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I like the idea very much and think it would make a fine model that would tie in with the theme of your GC. I think in terms of modelling the bolters would be like the 180 degree sponsons, but i think that game wise you should ignore this and play normal from the front, but if the model looks cool enough then either way would be good by me. Just my thoughts. If you do make said Land Speeder plaese post a picture, I would love to see it, and maybe steal some ideas :) Rylanor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253733-conversion-idea/#findComment-3079339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I think it sounds great!...and insist on pictures when you do make it -_- I love the LSS model and I think door gunners would look excellent. I think in casual games you'd have no problem with a 180-arc but best keep things 'normal' for anything nearing a competitive game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253733-conversion-idea/#findComment-3079399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt01price Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 ok gents thanks for the pointers and opinions... I better get the kits ordered and i'll get the pics up when I build them B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253733-conversion-idea/#findComment-3079988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 It may sound as heresy, but have You considered using Codex:SM to build the scout force based on Morkai's Great Company? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253733-conversion-idea/#findComment-3079991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt01price Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 I have thought about it in the past but then you lose, OBEL and BS/WS4 on the scouts, Grey Hunters with their BPs and CCWs, cheap devastators... the list goes on. The plan at the moment is to have 2 small wolf scout packs, along with the speeders above as a scouting force which would represent morkai's use of scouts (this should be able to deal with any tanks due to the amount of melta) and the scouts can harass any back field units by way of combat.... yeah the scout contingent is there to make a mess. Anything that escapes this will then have to dodge the attentions of 2 long fang packs (ml and lc)... by then hopefully the oppositions transports will have suffered... and heavy troops should have suffered due to the LCs and MLs. Then 3 full GH packs should be able to mop up the opposition's infantry. Oh and a rune priest to be another problem for the opposition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253733-conversion-idea/#findComment-3080034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 True, BS/WS 3 would be a pain, but You could take big contingents of them, albeit without melta and without OBEL, which is a drawback again. Btw, You could try experimenting with side mounted hurricane bolter - should be looking cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253733-conversion-idea/#findComment-3080047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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