CaptinLoken Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 So as I was reading the few threads in there I read over a few comments of ... each Primarch is a copy of the emperor in some way. So how does Corax fit into all this? Sneaky? Stealthy ... creative? not really getting the Emp and Corax comparision Help here guys.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 The problem is that it is and isn't the case. All of the Primarchs are unique. Some of them carry certain personality traits in spades. And it is strongly hinted that their twenty unique personalities are simply twenty facets of the Emperor that just happened to have the luxury of growing up in environments that were "perfect" for them. I think Corax was the only Loyalist Primarch who actually had to fight to gain control of his homeworld. And then he had to suffer through Istvaan. But he did what no other Primarch would do. He went straight to Terra and asked for a way to make his Legion better. Or at least grow it faster. Because of that, he added one thousand new recruits to his ranks in the time it usually takes just to pick the Scouts and train them into an effective fighting force just as fast, even if the Alpha Legion's tampering did turn them into mutants. So I wouldn't say he inherited "sneakiness" or "creativity". Rather, if he inherited a specific trait, it would be the Emperor's drive to go through whatever was needed to achieve victory. "Duty ends only in Death" and all that. The whole "sneakiness" came as a necessity. He had to help organize a rebellion in a prison complex. He was the only one who could walk freely because he was "invisible". My personal theory was that the "invisibility" was simply his latent psychic abilities(that all Primarchs should share to some degree or another since they were based on the same genetic template) acting a Jedi mind trick sort of way. "This is not the Primarch you are looking for."(cue funky hand wave) - Skip to 3:07 for the whole schmeal Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3080450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 So as I was reading the few threads in there I read over a few comments of ... each Primarch is a copy of the emperor in some way. So how does Corax fit into all this? Sneaky? Stealthy ... creative? not really getting the Emp and Corax comparision Help here guys.. Going by Guilliman, he's Emperor's bitterness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3080525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Going by Guilliman, he's Emperor's bitterness. One could also strongly argue that Perturabo inherited the bitterness based on the fact that he hates everyone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3080528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 One could also strongly argue that Perturabo inherited the bitterness based on the fact that he hates everyone. Perturabo had it all. Pettiness, jealousy, hatred, anger, insecurity. He's a mess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3080532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru2012 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 One could also strongly argue that Perturabo inherited the bitterness based on the fact that he hates everyone. Perturabo had it all. Pettiness, jealousy, hatred, anger, insecurity. He's a mess. I've heard he has lovely eyes though. :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3081118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Off topic but how do you pronounce Perturabo. I say Per-toor-ah-bo, but have no idea if that is close. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3081129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Keyaetus Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I do it like 'Per-churabo'. About corax, am not to sure, you could probably ask the same question about ones like Alpharius/Omegon and such. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3081177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Either Per-ter-ah-bo or Per-tcher-ah-bo. I don't really care which one I use, though sometimes I use both. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3081192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badhaggis Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 One could also strongly argue that Perturabo inherited the bitterness based on the fact that he hates everyone. Perturabo had it all. Pettiness, jealousy, hatred, anger, insecurity. He's a mess. I've heard he has lovely eyes though. :unsure: I think it is Iron Within where the warsmith talks about legion's traits are actually diligance instead of paranonia. i would say you would be bitter if you were seen as the lowest of the low in terms of the primarchs (along with Curze), wheras your brother Dorn is lauded with glory for having the same talents and abilities. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3081405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring-around-the-roses Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Perturabo actually seems, at least to me, have a major short end of the stick when it came to the Great Crusade. His legion gets repeatedly split up whenever another Primarch wants a garrison, just not from his own legion, of course not, they're needed for REAL fighting. Added to that, his brother, despite having major anger issues (from my perspective of how he's described in the Horus Heresy, of either nearly angry, or waaaayyyyy to serious for his own good)gets all the glory. His men build massive seige works, get shot to peices while doing it, and at the end, somebody else comes in and takes the glory, or else everybody complains 'cos he had to mess up the land a bit (I'm just guessing, but that would seem to fit the whole 'I'm seeking attention vibe they have) Look at the Ultramarines, Blood Angels, Luna Wolves and Emperor's Children, bravely taking the noble cause of the Imperium to the xenos. Watch the Iron Warriors... sitting in this trentch, like they have been for the last month. Oh... one of the Iron Warriors just got sniped from the enemy defences. Again. Moving on.... (How i imagine their remembrancers notes looked) If anything, i would say that Perturabo represents the Emperor's love of explosions, and willingness to destroy everything, even the ground he's fighting for and his own men in ceaseless grinding warfare, in order to win. Pretty much the Emp's bloody-mindedness when it came to war (not bloodthirstiness, that has to go to Angron) Just my perspective though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3081414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Look at the Ultramarines, Blood Angels, Luna Wolves and Emperor's Children, bravely taking the noble cause of the Imperium to the xenos. Watch the Iron Warriors... sitting in this trentch, like they have been for the last month. Oh... one of the Iron Warriors just got sniped from the enemy defences. Again. Moving on.... (How i imagine their remembrancers notes looked) One bit from the Luna Wolves Index Astartes article I always found interesting was the account of how at one point the Luna Wolves, the Ultramarines and the Iron Warriors were campaigning together, and the Luna Wolves repeatedly used both the Ultramarines and the Iron Warriors to mop up behind them, while they themselves would hurry on to the next world to gloriously liberate, justifying it by saying that all the Luna Wolves forces were needed at the front lines, and they could not be bothered with establishing order at the newly liberated worlds. Often fresh rebellions would flare up, which had to be suppressed by the Ultramarines or the Iron Warriors. The difference between Guilliman and Perturabo in this instance was that Guilliman is recorded as having confronted Horus about it, in particularly because leaving newly liberated worlds prematurely would lead to problems. Perturabo, on the other hand, was not mentioned in that manner, so he probably just added it to all the other instances where his Legion was mistreated, which ultimately made him so frustrated with the system that he sided with Horus (ironically). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3081421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Hey, when you hate everyone and one of those people offer you a chance to kill everyone else, you take it. You kill the last guy afterwards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3081537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Hey, when you hate everyone and one of those people offer you a chance to kill everyone else, you take it. You kill the last guy afterwards. This is why people don't offer guns at school or family reunions... ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3081539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Hey, when you hate everyone and one of those people offer you a chance to kill everyone else, you take it. You kill the last guy afterwards. This is why people don't offer guns at school or family reunions... :down: ............. About that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3081629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Hey, when you hate everyone and one of those people offer you a chance to kill everyone else, you take it. You kill the last guy afterwards. And Sigged. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3081684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Hawk Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 So as I was reading the few threads in there I read over a few comments of ... each Primarch is a copy of the emperor in some way. So how does Corax fit into all this? Sneaky? Stealthy ... creative? not really getting the Emp and Corax comparision Help here guys.. He is a NINJA! Who can turn invisible! Nuff said. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253827-corax/#findComment-3082356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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