Jonny Wolf Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 So, I just whipped up some rules for Leman Russ. I know it's been done before but this is my stab. What do you think? Leman Russ – 425 points WS - 10 BS - 8 S- 7 T- 8 W- 6 I- 8 A- 6/3 LD 10 S- 2+/3++ --------------------------- War Gear: Primarch Runic Armor – 2+ Save, 3+ Invul, 4+Invul against psychic attacks Wolf Tooth Necklace, Wolf Tail Talisman, Frag & Krak grenades Blade of Russ – 1 handed attacks confer +1 Strength, 2 handed attacks (half as many attacks as noted in the profile) confer +3 strength Spear of Russ – Once per game Russ may draw his spear and throw it at an opposing enemy to later collect the Spear after the battle is won. To represent this, the player controlling Russ may nominate the target with a shooting attack with the following profile: Range 18" Strength 7 AP 2 Type Assault 1, Pinning Bolt Pistol of the Rout – Master Crafted Bolt Pistol, Strength 5, AP5, Assault 1 Freki and Geri - Russ is accompanied by his two brother wolves, thunderwolves with the following profile: WS BS S T W I A LD S 5 0 5 5 2 5 4 8 4+ They are monstrous in size and as such take up three slots of a regular Power Armored Space marine for transport purposes. Freki and Geri have the Furious Charge special rule. --------------------------------------- Leman Russ Rules – Eternal Warrior, Stubborn, Furious Charge, Berserk Charge, Fist of Russ, Rage of Russ, Howl of Russ Fist of Russ – Leman Russ is the undisputed Lord of planetary Drop Pod Assaults – all units arriving via Drop Pod deep strike may assault on the turn they arrive. Furthermore, Long Fangs have the relentless special rule ONLY on the turn they arrive via Drop Pod deep strike. Rage of Russ – Leman Russ’ inspiring rage on the battlefield doubles the efforts of his son’s assaults – all Space Wolves within 24” of Russ have the Berserk Charge special rule. Howl of Russ - once per game (except on the turn Russ arrives on the battlefield), Russ may howl – any Space Wolves within 24inches of Russ get the Furious Charge special rule in addition to any other modifiers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254014-primarch-leman-russ/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 i'm at work, so cannot elaborate (but will later), but 425pts is way too cheap for the monster you have posted here. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254014-primarch-leman-russ/#findComment-3082992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Leman Russ – 425 pointsW S BS S T W I A LD S 10 8 7 9 8 6 8 6/3 10 2+/3++ This stat line requires at least 800 to 1,000 points, especially considering there's no listed current form. Theory-fluffing wise, many wonder if Leman Russ has changed into a lycan/crinos werewolf. If this is to reflect that change, your points value falls way short. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254014-primarch-leman-russ/#findComment-3083005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 I thought the points my be a tad low, lol. :lol: So what would make a better stat line? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254014-primarch-leman-russ/#findComment-3083013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 the deepstriking thing is overpowered, not to mention that droppods aren't THE thing we excell in. ragnar's insane bravado seems more like a rule befitting russ, maybe adding in FNP since no wolf would like to show any weakness in the presence of our mighty russ. increase the point cost to atleast 600-700 also add in :saga of the warrior born, saga of the wolfkin, saga of majesty, saga of the beastslayer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254014-primarch-leman-russ/#findComment-3083084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I suggest 500 pts is the starting point for a primarch. I agree that drop pods weren't Russ' special thing. Then there needs to be some form of draw back, achilles heel to balance things out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254014-primarch-leman-russ/#findComment-3083124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmande Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I really like Tempus Fugitives take on Primarch rules in general. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254014-primarch-leman-russ/#findComment-3083380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 There also seems to be an extra number in the stat line I'm not sure what's for. What I am taking from it is Weapon Skill: 10 Ballistic Skill:8 Strength: 7 Toughness: 9 Wounds: 8 Initiative: 6 random 8? Attacks: 6/3 (special rule you included) Leadership: 10 Save: 2+/3++ So what's the 8 for? Also, I agree, 425 seems like a steal for this guy in his current stat line + special rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254014-primarch-leman-russ/#findComment-3083461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 @Hendrik - I was thinking about the assault on Prospero (even though it was with drop pods AND aircraft) for the logic behind the Drop Pod assault. - agree with adding (some of?) the Saga's @Kassil - extra 8 is a typo (thanks). So...should is a recommendation to lower some of his statline a good course of action? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254014-primarch-leman-russ/#findComment-3083689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 How about this: Weapon Skill: 8 Ballistic Skill:7 Strength: 6 Toughness: 7 Wounds: 5 Initiative: 6 Attacks: 4 Leadership: 10 Save: 2+/3++ Saga of the Primarch: has all Sagas except 'Hunter' Feel no pain Master Frost Weapon. +2 S power weapon Plasma Pistol Wolf tail talisman Frag grenades Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254014-primarch-leman-russ/#findComment-3083707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I think he should be S8. G :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254014-primarch-leman-russ/#findComment-3083740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 @Hendrik - I was thinking about the assault on Prospero (even though it was with drop pods AND aircraft) for the logic behind the Drop Pod assault. - agree with adding (some of?) the Saga's @Kassil - extra 8 is a typo (thanks). So...should is a recommendation to lower some of his statline a good course of action? I quite like his stat line currently, just feel it should cost more. After all, he is a demi-god, the son of the All-father, a Primarch! So, he should have the stat line and cost to match. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254014-primarch-leman-russ/#findComment-3083782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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