Gofy Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 This is my 1st post. So I have thought of a name for my variation of one of the unknown Legions... "Astral Owls" ...But I need ideas as to why an owl related Legion would be deleted from all reccords. Any ideas?? Gofy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254035-xi-legion-astartes-astral-owls/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Hail and welcome, brother. Why exactly does it have to be one of the two Legions expunged from records? There's ten thousand years to muck about with that hundreds of chapters were created in - rather than wedge yourself into a corner that will likely prove your undoing (no offence), why not take a crack at a time period that hasn't been scrutinized by everyone and their mum, like the Age of Apostasy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254035-xi-legion-astartes-astral-owls/#findComment-3083306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gofy Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 I Just find the XI/II legions facinating, and I think that they might be interesting to develop. I have also seen other XI/II Legions on various forums, and that I would like a go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254035-xi-legion-astartes-astral-owls/#findComment-3083316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Okay... so what do you have so far besides the name? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254035-xi-legion-astartes-astral-owls/#findComment-3083320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I Just find the XI/II legions facinating... Not to be really pedantic - sometimes I just can't help it though - but there isn't really anything to fascinate; there's just nothing. I'm not saying that you shouldn't do something, but it's such a blank canvas that canvas hasn't even been invented yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254035-xi-legion-astartes-astral-owls/#findComment-3083323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gofy Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 Okay... so what do you have so far besides the name? I really don't have that much, other than this rough idea: There is the rough idea of (at least part of) the Legion being sent far from the Imperium for some reason, then being attacked by {insert Xenos breed here}. The survivors crash on an unknown planet. Due to the isolation from the Imperium, they become corrupted and start killing themselves for power. This internal war is broken up by another Legion, who calls on the distruction of the XI Legion by the Space Wolves (There are implications that they did more than burn Prospero in the fluff.) The Primarch is not present, either still attending to other matters, or possible death/serious wounds. (The latter is not likely.) This whole corruption from within is based on Lord of the Flies. The Legion's "loyal" survivors become part of the Legion that found them. The "Traitors" are killed to a man. Those that survive fight in the Heresy, but under new names and without their former Legion's insignia/armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254035-xi-legion-astartes-astral-owls/#findComment-3083332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaptermasterDemon7 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Welcome to the Liber. I must agree with CJJ, there isnt anything to be fascinate about the II and XI Legions. Yeah, I wish there was stuff to, but there isnt. But, i am also saying that if you want to have a swing at it, go for it. But, besides being isolated, would they begin to fight one another for power? Also, who is the other Legion to call upon there destruction? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254035-xi-legion-astartes-astral-owls/#findComment-3083363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gofy Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 I was thinking that the planet was slightly tainted in some way by the powers of Chaos, possibly by Khorne, reflecting on the savages that the Legion would become. I don't know who should rescue the survivors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254035-xi-legion-astartes-astral-owls/#findComment-3083776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 As a Legio XI fandex writer, my only suggestion would be - do it right or don't do it at all. Unless you have an awesome, well-thought-out, carefully crafted, and meaningful purpose in using one of the Lost Legions, and can execute the idea flawlessly - people will mercilessly bash your efforts until you wished you'd never floated the idea. Good luck with your endeavor. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254035-xi-legion-astartes-astral-owls/#findComment-3083800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gofy Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 I have taken your thoughts into consderation and am now creating the Astral Owls Chapter, rather then Legion. Who should the Progenitor be? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254035-xi-legion-astartes-astral-owls/#findComment-3084283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I have taken your thoughts into consderation and am now creating the Astral Owls Chapter, rather then Legion.Who should the Progenitor be? Well, who do you like? Which primarch tickles your fancy? Any of them? None of them? A popular choice in these parts is Dorn. Whether or not you want to follow the herd on that one is up to you. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254035-xi-legion-astartes-astral-owls/#findComment-3084284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 i would suggest writting about things you want youre chapter to do, how you want them to opperate. once you've got a few things written down, think what primarch would best fit their style. If youre chapter is against bionic's then you know one primarch that they might not be from. If they prefer armored assaults then maybe you want to be a white scars successor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254035-xi-legion-astartes-astral-owls/#findComment-3085194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I would recommend Guillieman based on most Astartes Chapters being from his seed. However, without seeing more of your ideas on the Chapter, I cannot say much more than this Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254035-xi-legion-astartes-astral-owls/#findComment-3085420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I Just find the XI/II legions facinating... Not to be really pedantic - sometimes I just can't help it though - but there isn't really anything to fascinate; there's just nothing. I'm not saying that you shouldn't do something, but it's such a blank canvas that canvas hasn't even been invented yet. It's a captivating mystery within the lore, and if you look back int he time of yore, GW supposedly intended to leave them a mystery so that player could create their own Traitor/Loyalist legion, back when there wasn't a difference between 'Chapter' and 'Legion'. That said, the hardest thing would be to come up with something new; it's quite plain that GW itself was running out of ideas for variant color schemes and primarch backgrounds on the Known 18. GW couldn't make all of their primarchs 100% different. I brainstormed it, and I thought up a whole 'Pirate/thief king' type background, but it didn't really translate well into how the legion would operate...I mean there are already sneaky Legions, Super Soldier Legions, and RAWR Assault Legions, as well as Building and Demolition legions, engineer legions, theologian and intellectual legions. How would a legion of thieves fight? Just because their primarch was a certain way, would the legion necessarily be the same way? I mean, after implantation, would my guys have all become mysteriously good at catburglary? At fencing stuff and heists? A legion couldn't really function that way, and if they did...they'd be a lot like the Alpha Legion. So that would be his challenge, is to create something that's plausible and new that hasn't already been done by one of the other primarchs/legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254035-xi-legion-astartes-astral-owls/#findComment-3085481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Everyone knows the second legion are know as the Sigma Marines being that their primarch is Sigmar. And the eleventh legion are lead by this guy :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254035-xi-legion-astartes-astral-owls/#findComment-3085517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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