grumabeth Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 HI all, so iv decided to start a new army and the army of choice is grey knights (as funds are low on the ground at the moment...downside to kids) so with 6th edition not far away now i v decided to finally get back into the gaming side of things. i thought id just get some advice on my first list. I will definatlly be fighting necrons at some point. anyway heres the list (please be gentle im not so good at the gaming side of things * Librarian (150pts) * Grey Knight Strike Squad 4x Storm Bolter and Nemesis Force Sword * Justicar Nemesis Force Sword, Storm Bolter * Razorback Twin Linked Heavy Bolters * Grey Knight Strike Squad 4x Storm Bolter and Nemesis Force Sword , Warp Quake * Justicar Nemesis Force Sword, Storm Bolter * Razorback (80pts) Fortitude, Lascannon and Twin Linked Plasmagun if my maths is correct were looking at about 475. so what to add or remove is the real question Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254336-new-to-grey-knights/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortysl Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 HI all, so iv decided to start a new army and the army of choice is grey knights (as funds are low on the ground at the moment...downside to kids) so with 6th edition not far away now i v decided to finally get back into the gaming side of things. i thought id just get some advice on my first list. I will definatlly be fighting necrons at some point.anyway heres the list (please be gentle im not so good at the gaming side of things * Librarian (150pts) * Grey Knight Strike Squad 4x Storm Bolter and Nemesis Force Sword * Justicar Nemesis Force Sword, Storm Bolter * Razorback Twin Linked Heavy Bolters * Grey Knight Strike Squad 4x Storm Bolter and Nemesis Force Sword , Warp Quake * Justicar Nemesis Force Sword, Storm Bolter * Razorback (80pts) Fortitude, Lascannon and Twin Linked Plasmagun if my maths is correct were looking at about 475. so what to add or remove is the real question Psycannons to your strike Squads should probably be the first addition; their firepower is invaluable. Also, consider which psychic powers you're going to give to your Librarian, because you have to purchase them so it'll affect your points total. I would also personally recommend an Assault Vehicle of some form (Land Raider variant or Stormraven) and some Purifers to go in it. Defintely Terminators as funds allow. A lot of people will say take Draigo and loads of Paladins but I personally disagree. depends on your playstyle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254336-new-to-grey-knights/#findComment-3088926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumabeth Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 Ahh sorry, should of said, im starting off at 500 till i re learn how to play (get to orips with GK) as its been about 2 years since my last game :0 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254336-new-to-grey-knights/#findComment-3088934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortysl Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Ahh sorry, should of said, im starting off at 500 till i re learn how to play (get to orips with GK) as its been about 2 years since my last game :0 Ah right fair enough. definitely the Psycannons in that case. Will bring your total to 495, allowing you an extra psychic power for your Librarian. I would suggest Smite, as Necrons are a pain in the arse. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254336-new-to-grey-knights/#findComment-3088937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumabeth Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 im still unsure of the HQ, i was thinking maybe make him a captain instead of a libby. i did make a list with a dread knight just for kicks but i dont think it would be effective Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254336-new-to-grey-knights/#findComment-3089714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortysl Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 im still unsure of the HQ, i was thinking maybe make him a captain instead of a libby. i did make a list with a dread knight just for kicks but i dont think it would be effective Depends on what sort of playstyle you're looking for. Captains are absolute combat monsters but Librarians have access to some amazing psychic powers. They're both brilliant H.Q choices, just for completely different reasons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254336-new-to-grey-knights/#findComment-3089728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumabeth Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 well iv been looking into it and i think i would definatly stand a beter chance against them in CC so wrote this list to try but im not sure which is more effective Brotherhood Champion 100 Strike Squad with Psycannon 110 strike squad with psycannon 110 DreadKnight with Great sword and Heavy incenerator 185 now i know this is 5 points over but i think it looks quite a good list but i know very little about it lol. my 3rd option was coteaz with henchman and a storm raven Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254336-new-to-grey-knights/#findComment-3090104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 That's pretty good actually. If they're cool with the 5 points over I'd run with it. I think a Brotherhood Champion is very effective for small point values, and he can easily ride in a Razorback (or Rhino) with a small squad. It's not that dissimilar from standard Space Marines where a few small tactical squads, some transports, and an HQ is a basic list. Another option is to drop the DreadKnight for a pair of Razorbacks with psybolts and weaponry (typically heavy bolters or assault cannons), then add psybolts to everything and possibly one more man to your Strike Squads. Roughly the same firepower, better transport capability, and could get you under your 500 mark. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254336-new-to-grey-knights/#findComment-3090454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortysl Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 That's pretty good actually. If they're cool with the 5 points over I'd run with it. I think a Brotherhood Champion is very effective for small point values, and he can easily ride in a Razorback (or Rhino) with a small squad. It's not that dissimilar from standard Space Marines where a few small tactical squads, some transports, and an HQ is a basic list. Another option is to drop the DreadKnight for a pair of Razorbacks with psybolts and weaponry (typically heavy bolters or assault cannons), then add psybolts to everything and possibly one more man to your Strike Squads. Roughly the same firepower, better transport capability, and could get you under your 500 mark. I'd agree. Brotherhood Champions being single-wound models can make them vulnerable if you receive enough incoming fire to ensure he has to receive at least 1 wound. I believe that Necrons have a pretty good anti-vehicle capability but in 500 points games you're always going to be limited with Grey Knights. Getting in close is the key; Necrons ARE inferior to Grey Knights in combat but they have great ranged capability. I suspect your best bet is to close as fast as possible, firing all the while, and then slam into them and finish them with Nemesis Force Weapons. Engaging them in protracted firefights is likely to cause you problems. However, if you really want to go with the Dreadknight, swap out the Greatsword for a Nemesis Daemon Hammer. It strikes at the Dreadknight's Initiative and grants him strength 10 (with 2D6 armour penetration against vehicles). That, and it's 10 points cheaper than the Greatsword, bring you under your 500 point limit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254336-new-to-grey-knights/#findComment-3091101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumabeth Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 i think ill do that. i wont add vehicles in at this point as im going to wait to i go up to 250 and add a termie squad and one razor back Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254336-new-to-grey-knights/#findComment-3091471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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