Rune Priest Ridcully Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I have been thinking of doing a heresy era Salamanders force, set after Isstvan, I plan to include landspeeders as I have two of the old metal ones and have always loved them, and to differentiate it from any of my other armies it will be entirely in drop pods. The idea is that Istvann the salamanders could at most strike at the traitors supply lines and depos and such, and would have been forced to use the fast verhicles they did not normally, I'm also thinking that land speeders may have had a good chance of surviving the massacre. The rest, I'm not sure, I would like to use a squad of the Tartoros terminators if possible, but would like to be fluffy, but I have little idea what the Salamanders would have had after the massacre apart form the depleted numbers? Is there any information on the drakes of the heresy and scouring era that is important to building a Salamanders force of that period rather then that of the 41st millennium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254337-heresyscouring-era-salamanders/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 as far as I am aware, they are pretty similar in attitude and style to post-Heresy. There is practically nothing on them fluffwise afaik Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254337-heresyscouring-era-salamanders/#findComment-3088945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lividjoker Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 A good starting point would be, if you're able to, is to read Promethean Sun. That's if you know somebody who owns it, as although its many years before what you're looking for it will give you an improved insight into the Legion. I'll re-read through mine to see if I can get you more information on the Firedrakes etc.. Something I do remember is the Pyre Guard, Vulkan's bodyguard. I think you could use them as a centrepiece for your force. Also they didn't have mixed units they had dedicated squads such as an entire flamer unit. (Though in Promethean Sun due to losses the more traditional squad is made- not sure if it stayed throughout. Heka'Tan does comment on its tactical flex-ability.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254337-heresyscouring-era-salamanders/#findComment-3090451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 I was thinking of converting vulkan :) so some pyre guard could be good, must admit I do like the Tartaros terminators, I could also use the regular type as well. Not sure how dedicated squads could be shown outside of command squads and devestators though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254337-heresyscouring-era-salamanders/#findComment-3090486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lividjoker Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I was thinking of converting vulkan :) so some pyre guard could be good, must admit I do like the Tartaros terminators, I could also use the regular type as well.Not sure how dedicated squads could be shown outside of command squads and devestators though. The Pyre Guard will be a good bet, I'll see if I can get all their weapon set-ups from the book, Numeon the Pyre Guard Leader and 1st Company captain used a halberd so I'm thinking class it as relic-blade or something. Though blades and bludgeons are the norm but each is unique- Power Mauls and Double bladed swords being used. They also wear drake scales. The Firedrakes themselves haven't really changed they are still the first company in essence. Mk 2 and 3 would be the most common armour types in the Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254337-heresyscouring-era-salamanders/#findComment-3090518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 Was thinking MK II as the most common with some MKIV and VI as their skills would have meant they would have maintained the older armours whilst having some of the newer, experimental stuff at the time of the heresy. Was thinking of doing most of the charecters who did not have thunder hammers with spear/halberds of some kind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254337-heresyscouring-era-salamanders/#findComment-3090521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lividjoker Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Heka'tan used a chainsword and bolt pistol combination. Not the best captain load out in the world imo, but he was at the Massacres so I think a battered up version of him would be pretty sweet. Flamer weapons will crop up a lot. As for Dreadnoughts the one on the book is you more common Dreadnought that we are all so used to seeing with assault cannon and ccw. You could ramp it up into a Contemptor one. There is also a tradition whereby the marines will smear ash onto their hands or armour somewhere, could prove for some nice designs. Maybe the LotD models could be useful for characters with all those flame decals. Obviously with some modifications. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254337-heresyscouring-era-salamanders/#findComment-3090533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 I have started converting a librarian, but would like to do a captain at the moment, I don't suppose any other captains/officers/ salamanders were named? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254337-heresyscouring-era-salamanders/#findComment-3090589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lividjoker Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Alongside Heka'Tan (14th Company) there was Gravius, the 5th company's captain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254337-heresyscouring-era-salamanders/#findComment-3090669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradill Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 After the horrendous losses at istvaan drop site massacre, the salamanders slowly rebuilt but always remained small. As far as I know, they have no official successor chapters and still operate as pre heresy organisation,just smaller. This could've due to a severe lack of fluff currently and may be retconned at a later date. Just standard units with older marks of armour and some of that cool ash smearing practise would look awesome IMO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254337-heresyscouring-era-salamanders/#findComment-3090880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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