Brother-Chaplain Nemiel Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Still got some tamiya paints from my never-really-started scale modeling times...so i never really used them! :tu: They are acryls, but they do smell like they are alcohol based? Can i use water to thin them and clean the brushes, or do i need another brushcleaner solution? Oh and can i use tamyia thinner (X-20A) to "rescue" almost dead GW acryls? And does anyone know whats X-21 Flat base, is it a primer or a base colour? Tried to google it but didnt found any satisfying answers...no info on the pots themselves...well japanese! ;) Respectfully, BC-Nemiel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254383-tamiya-colours-advise/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I've thinned GW paint using tamiya thinner before, and it worked fine, but I was using in an airbrush and on a large model, not a mini Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254383-tamiya-colours-advise/#findComment-3089693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirdfox Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Aside from Tamiya's own acrylic thinner, I used plain tap water to thin my acrylics and they worked just fine. For cleaning the brushes, rubbing alcohol and some distilled water works well. IIRC, X-21 Flat Base is used as a primer. Might wanna get a second opinion on that though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254383-tamiya-colours-advise/#findComment-3091874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurth Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 They are acryls, but they do smell like they are alcohol based? Can i use water to thin them and clean the brushes, or do i need another brushcleaner solution? They are alcohol-based, like almost all acrylics. This means you can use water to thin them (though isopropanol-based windscreen wiper fluid also works — check stores selling car accessories) and you don't need brush cleaner. Oh and can i use tamyia thinner (X-20A) to "rescue" almost dead GW acryls? Yes, you can, though you may want to know the windscreen wiper fluid I mentioned above is almost identical to Tamiya thinner and costs a few euros per litre instead of something like €7.95 for 250 ml … You may not want to use the wiper fluid on white paint, though as it usually has a slightly blue or green tint to it, but other than that it doesn't cause any problems. And does anyone know whats X-21 Flat base, is it a primer or a base colour? It is none of the above. Flat Base is used to make gloss colours, matt: you mix a little Flat Base into the paint and it will dry matt; the more Flat Base, the matter the paint will become. Gunze-Sanyo has a similar product, BTW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254383-tamiya-colours-advise/#findComment-3092027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Nemiel Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Thx for the answers Brothers, i was able to rescue 2 of my old paints, which where in a state of a very thick paste...with 4-5 drops of the tamiya thinner and a stainless steel ball it just needed a proper shaking, now they "act" like a new GW colour...hmmm never thought of wiper fluid^^ I was so positively surprised, i use a stainless steel ball in all my GW paints now...since you shake you colour before use has the advantage that you can basically judge if a colour needs thinning just by hearing ;) I just hope to find my old paints, that would save me ALOT of money, esp those colours one used only for tiny details like power cables etc! But due to the crappy pots GW produced back in the times i guess i can throw the most of them away by now...but i had some of those old hexagon shaped pots, im convinced they still "live"... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254383-tamiya-colours-advise/#findComment-3095185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurth Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 As a bit of extra advice, never put a steel ball bearing into a glass paint bottle (like those from Tamiya). Revell used to sell airbrush-ready paint with a ball bearing already inside, and I had more than one of those bottles break in my hand while I was shaking them. Luckily I never cut myself, but the paint flying everywhere lead to some quite strong words coming out of my mouth. After that I've fished the ball bearings out of any paint in glass bottles that come with them as standard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254383-tamiya-colours-advise/#findComment-3095491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GumbaFish Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Glass beads work well too, I'm too paranoid to put anything that has the potential to oxidize or corrode in my paint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254383-tamiya-colours-advise/#findComment-3095821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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