Soups Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 *Flashbacks of the old demon hunters codex* God-Emperor, I hope it's not for normal games. Imperial Guard heavy weapons. And so help me, If 6th will allow allies, I'm going to get the jump on everyone else cheesing it up, and buying as many manticore boxes as I can. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leksington Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Tough to decide. -BA don't really have anything great for assassination. If psychers are too powerful (a la WFB magic) I might be looking for the best stand alone assassination units. -Some of the top rated, auto include, shooty models from some lists are tempting. Long Fangs, Psyfle Dreads. -As was mentioned, Imotekh The Storm Lord has obvious synergy for a jumper assault list. -Fielding an 8 SR list (at over 2k points) might be interesting (6BA SRs from heavy support, 2 GK SRs from FA). -When SoB get a new Codex I want to start a sisters army. I don't see too much synergy here, but you must admit, Celestine and the Sanguinor would make a cute couple. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lividjoker Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Well being a Knights of Blood player, anything that I can immediately attack after winning the game! We don't care what it is, as long as it bleeds and happened to be in front of us when we swung widely with our chainswords. :) necrons might not be your best choice then :) It's settled then, Ward's Ultramarines! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Well being a Knights of Blood player, anything that I can immediately attack after winning the game! We don't care what it is, as long as it bleeds and happened to be in front of us when we swung widely with our chainswords. ;) necrons might not be your best choice then :P It's settled then, Ward's Ultramarines! If only there was a *like* button Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Well being a Knights of Blood player, anything that I can immediately attack after winning the game! We don't care what it is, as long as it bleeds and happened to be in front of us when we swung widely with our chainswords. :( necrons might not be your best choice then ;) It's settled then, Ward's Ultramarines! If only there was a *like* button I have this thought fairly often. I want to say "Black Templar" because I've always wanted an excuse to build some Templar models more than anything else, I think, but I'll wait for them to get an FAQ/new Codex and see how they interact with 6th Edition psyker rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 a random run of the mill Inq with grenades O_o Nom. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 a random run of the mill Inq with grenades O_o Nom. I still have a couple Inquisitor models I made back when I used codex deamonhunters for allies.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 If I field an Inquisitor and retinue I would basically just model up our Dark Heresy party. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leksington Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Are we going to start doing unit analysis articles on our ally codicies? Is this sub forum (potentially) going to be a haven for all things Necron? How are we going to react if major tournaments (including those outside of the US :( ;) ) don't allow allies? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Are we going to start doing unit analysis articles on our ally codicies? Is this sub forum (potentially) going to be a haven for all things Necron? ;) I think a lot of people who are teasing the BA are going to be very surprised when they see that necrons can be grudging allies with all marines :( (at least from what i've been told) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 I feel cheated on! Our bromance was special :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 If Morticon is right, I might make up 1 unit of Necrons as a joke for my BA army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Correction- sorry- its "Unholy Alliance" (with crons) same as crons and SW, DA, SM...but...get this...GK are friendlier with them than we are !! :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabadin Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 but...get this...GK are friendlier with them than we are !! ;) I can see it now, "Show us how to build those Monoliths and we'll teach you how Draigo walks around the Warp like he owns the place" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Jump BA + Devastators with IG Heavy Weapon Teams... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezkh Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Jump BA with a full unit of Gauss Blaster Immortals and Imotekh. Night fighting, the new rapid fire rules plus interaction with relentless and ability for Gauss weaponry to strip hull points ready for the Melta killshot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Yeah that's not bad Mezkh. Jumpers would really benefit from night fight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMac Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Im gonna go unfluffy and ally Tycho and ghazghkull. ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I can't remember where but I'm sure I read that the allie contingent would be its own force, so no abiities would cross over from codex to codex. So a BA army with Pedro and 3 scoring sternguard would not gain fnp from us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3090964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I want to see the rules specifically, and the FAQs. Because I want to know how the Emperor's Champion will work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3091048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
teku Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I want to see the rules specifically, and the FAQs. Because I want to know how the Emperor's Champion will work. indeed! prefered enemy to all! ;) or maybe with grey knights grand master make death company contesting unit for objectives. :( the options! the idea's! But I agree first see the rules, the allies chart, point value and FAQ. In only 2 weeks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3091081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 There is nooooo ways army special rules are gonna affect each other. Just aint gonna happen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3091099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Dam, there go my furious charge TWC :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3091263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Xeones Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Yeah if they limit the ways that special rules and wargear interact between allies, that will go a long ways toward balancing things out. Limiting special characters might not be as necessary at that point since a lot of the broken combos would not work. Of course, you could still probably find some pretty crazy combinations. A primary Coteaz-led GK Henchmen spam list with a couple of DCA-filled stormravens and IG allies with a full Vendetta squadron and Psy-dread support could be pretty crazy for instance. No need for special rules interactions, just a lot of cheap(ish) effective units and lots of fliers. I understand why people are worried about how allies will effect the game. But to play devil's advocate for a second, if almost everyone has access to the same units via allies, won't that actually help to balance the game? I mean, sure it might mean everyone will eventually start building the same boring net lists with the same allies, but that herd mentality with lists seems bound to happen anyway. Look at all the people who jumped on the Razorspam band wagon halfway though 5th --and that was without allies. At best, it promotes both variety through the possibility of making a totally unique force through taking different units than you would normally have access to, and could promote balance through the probability that lots of people will have access to the same unit combos (broken, cheesy, or otherwise) and counters to those combos that everyone else does. Anyway, I'm not even sure that I've convinced myself of what I've just typed, but I thought I'd give an alternative and slightly more up-beat viewpoint. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3091287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scopedog91 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Deathwing. Just two HQs and Termie/Assault Squads. Could be fun...for me. Besides, weren't DA and BA both in a book together once, history buffs? Awesome... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254411-potential-allies/page/2/#findComment-3091290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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