Vash113 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Does anybody have the full listing of allies for the Wolves? From what I'm seeing looking around it seems like pretty much any of the Imperial Armies, it just depends on whether they will be Battle Brother class allies or Allies of Convenience and all that really changes is whether the allies benefit from each others special rules and abilities or not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akela Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Hmm, I may have to get a Storm Talon and paint it up in the livery of Raven Guard, have it provide air support for Wolf Scouts...Raven and Wolf back at it, heh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I think only a converted Imperial Guard unit or three to represent the Fenrisian defense force of the Fang for fluff games only. Otherwise not interested. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Does anybody have the full listing of allies for the Wolves? Brothers in arms - Black templars, Blood angels, Imperial guard, Space marines. allies of convience - Dark Angels, eldar, Grey Knights, Sisters of battle, Tau Unholy alliance - Dark eldar, Necrons, orcs. Cant ally - Daemons, Chaos space marines, Tyranids Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 Does anybody have the full listing of allies for the Wolves? Brothers in arms - Black templars, Blood angels, Imperial guard, Space marines. allies of convience - Dark Angels, eldar, Grey Knights, Sisters of battle, Tau Unholy alliance - Dark eldar, Necrons, orcs. Cant ally - Daemons, Chaos space marines, Tyranids I’m assuming your source is that doubles tourney pdf rulesheet from a couple weeks ago? If so, not that I don't disagree they were using that as a testing ground, but I think it's still unconfirmed. If you have a different source, I'd love to know about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Does anybody have the full listing of allies for the Wolves? Brothers in arms - Black templars, Blood angels, Imperial guard, Space marines. allies of convience - Dark Angels, eldar, Grey Knights, Sisters of battle, Tau Unholy alliance - Dark eldar, Necrons, orcs. Cant ally - Daemons, Chaos space marines, Tyranids I’m assuming your source is that doubles tourney pdf rulesheet from a couple weeks ago? If so, not that I don't disagree they were using that as a testing ground, but I think it's still unconfirmed. If you have a different source, I'd love to know about it. This is the source .. http://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments..._ama/?limit=500 Search for "ally matrix" in the find option and you will see " MandorOfSawall 10 points 1 day ago Seems like this ally matrix from the GW 2v2 tournament is correct. Can you confirm? " Scroll down and the source replies "Rixitotal 5 points 1 day ago that is exactly it as far as i can see. only the chart is alot prettier! " Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Fenrir Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I'm going to ally with the 13th company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness drinking dwarf Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Fluff wise I may try using IG as Belisarius house guard from Wolfblade. This move by GW to put allies back in the main RB and not limit them to the tournament scene is good. The scope to collect snippets of other armies really apeals to me. Though I wonder if there will be restrictions on what you can and can’t take from each codex with a set percentage split favouring your main force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Fluff wise I may try using IG as Belisarius house guard from Wolfblade.This move by GW to put allies back in the main RB and not limit them to the tournament scene is good. The scope to collect snippets of other armies really apeals to me. Though I wonder if there will be restrictions on what you can and can’t take from each codex with a set percentage split favouring your main force. Apparently not, all I've been able to dig up basically says when you take an ally you compulsively have to take 1 HQ and 1 Troop, and then that gives you access to one further Troops choice, an Elites, a Fast Attack and a Heavy Support from the ally Codex with no restrictions on what units can be taken, points costs or anything. It's to all intents and purposes an additional FOC, meaning as long as you have fulfilled the basic requirements of your own FOC you can take an ally. So an army could literally be 1 HQ and 2 Troops of the main army and 1 HQ and 1 Troop of an allied army and nothing else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d@n Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Do these new allied rules mean i will be able to select only units from other codices or wargear? as i would really love to take codex marine drop pods, so i can have 2x special weapons and a tda wolfguard? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Do these new allied rules mean i will be able to select only units from other codices or wargear? as i would really love to take codex marine drop pods, so i can have 2x special weapons and a tda wolfguard? It's a separate FOC chart so no, you won't be able to take transports from one codex for a squad from another. You could however perhaps take a Blood Angels Stormraven and after deployment embark a unit of Wolf Guard, Grey Hunters or whatever. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Do these new allied rules mean i will be able to select only units from other codices or wargear? as i would really love to take codex marine drop pods, so i can have 2x special weapons and a tda wolfguard? Yeah, you could take it - but you probably can't embark your GH pack in it, unless the rules for Dedicated Transports have been changed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Do these new allied rules mean i will be able to select only units from other codices or wargear? as i would really love to take codex marine drop pods, so i can have 2x special weapons and a tda wolfguard? Yeah, you could take it - but you probably can't embark your GH pack in it, unless the rules for Dedicated Transports have been changed. Storm Ravens aren't a dedicated transport choice though. off the top of my head for BA they are a heavy support choice. @ Vash113 : You would need to be Brother in arms to embark the storm raven i believe. Actually thats more of an assumption - shuts up - Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Do these new allied rules mean i will be able to select only units from other codices or wargear? as i would really love to take codex marine drop pods, so i can have 2x special weapons and a tda wolfguard? Yeah, you could take it - but you probably can't embark your GH pack in it, unless the rules for Dedicated Transports have been changed. Storm Ravens aren't a dedicated transport choice though. off the top of my head for BA they are a heavy support choice. No but Drop Pods are... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Storm Ravens aren't a dedicated transport choice though. off the top of my head for BA they are a heavy support choice. @ Vash113 : You would need to be Brother in arms to embark the storm raven i believe. Actually thats more of an assumption - shuts up - I haven't seen anything conclusive yet on transports and allies, I'm interested to see how that holds up. In Apocalypse units can embark on allied transports but that is Apocalypse, I'm sure it will be addressed in the full rules. If allies can embark on transports it could certainly lead to some interesting things. Suddenly I'm thinking of adding a Blood Angels Chaplain, Death Company and Stormraven to my Great Company as a Wolf Priest, Wulfen Pack and a... Stormraven... yea can't really explain the gunship other than the rule of cool, but that's fine IMO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Do these new allied rules mean i will be able to select only units from other codices or wargear? as i would really love to take codex marine drop pods, so i can have 2x special weapons and a tda wolfguard? Yeah, you could take it - but you probably can't embark your GH pack in it, unless the rules for Dedicated Transports have been changed. Storm Ravens aren't a dedicated transport choice though. off the top of my head for BA they are a heavy support choice. No but Drop Pods are... Ahh my bad completely >.< sorry Dswanick, i didnt read it carefully enough.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilmerlin Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Nice. Perhaps a reason to go buy those shiny Vendettas, Storm Ravens and Storm Talons! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacton Qruze Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Does anybody have the full listing of allies for the Wolves? wolves are confirmed Battle Brothers with IG and all marines, except DA & GK (allies of convenience) They are also allies of convenience with Eldar, SoB and Tau. They are Desperate Allies with Orks, Necrons and DE. No allies with the rest (Daemons, CSM, Nids) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 A leaked image from the new RB over at BoLS also confirms what Khine posted earlier in this thread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 A leaked image from the new RB over at BoLS also confirms what Khine posted earlier in this thread. and according to BoLS .. HQ slot = no named characters. Boooooooo! >.> i was looking forward to running Mephiston with my Drop pod WG D; I think i just decided not to ally with BA now..=x Maybe guard .. or a MoTF..yay conversion beamer in my LF Squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacton Qruze Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I've been strongly considering guard... the astropath and fleet master beef my plans greatly, and a vendetta would be nice air support. I'm also leaning at vanilla for stormtalon air support, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/pGu40.jpg Figure those who are still using the tournament sheet for allies might appreciate this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 Figure those who are still using the tournament sheet for allies might appreciate this. Hehe, I had this in my last post but brought it down for fear of copyright. =P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Figure those who are still using the tournament sheet for allies might appreciate this. Hehe, I had this in my last post but brought it down for fear of copyright. =P As of right now, I have no idea where or what that rumored photo came from. GW has not verified that it is their copyright or anything. Maybe this weekend things will change. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I have heard tell that in the FOC for allies - no named independent characters can be taken. (Not sure about named special characters though). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254445-6th-edition-allies/page/3/#findComment-3096875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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