Greyall Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 He reminds me of Bane, Batman's villain. He's got a grand vision for the galaxy, sets up a likewise big, well concocted plan relying a lot on special operatives and based on applying overwhelming force to multiple points in the enemy defenses. But at the end of the day, it's his fists you have to deal with... Abaddon's episode with the Blood Angels is pretty cool in demonstrating how he operates, even on a bigger scale. He and a band of Khorne Berzerkers advanced on a line of Blood Angels Devastators, got severely mauled, only a few reaching the enemy, but once there they tore the Angels apart. Power overwhelming... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254458-does-anyone-else-not-like-erebus/page/3/#findComment-3122164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarius Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I really hope A D-B gets hist shot at remaking Abaddon. I also really hope said shot will finally put to rest the annoying (and entirely undeserved) "failbaddon" conception so many people have of him. It's a tall order, since we in the geek business really love to talk down awesome characters, but if anyone can do it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254458-does-anyone-else-not-like-erebus/page/3/#findComment-3125251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Erebus Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I'm sure there is a lot we will end up learning about Erebus and the rest of the main Chaos players in the future books that come out. I have a feeling he will become a larger player in the future of 40k fluff. I would like to think so (It would be nice to get a short story about him). I thought he had the potential to become a good character after the trilogy about Horus' fall but has probably suffered from inconsistent writing since then. It doesn't help that he's one of those characters that has made fleeting appearances from time to time (as one of Horus' resident sidekicks). However, even if he wasn't a prominent character in TFH I did like what ADB did with him, and I would like to think that he'll make another appearance in 'Betrayer'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254458-does-anyone-else-not-like-erebus/page/3/#findComment-3201536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKnight Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 He reminds me of Bane, Batman's villain. He's got a grand vision for the galaxy, sets up a likewise big, well concocted plan relying a lot on special operatives and based on applying overwhelming force to multiple points in the enemy defenses. But at the end of the day, it's his fists you have to deal with... Abaddon's episode with the Blood Angels is pretty cool in demonstrating how he operates, even on a bigger scale. He and a band of Khorne Berzerkers advanced on a line of Blood Angels Devastators, got severely mauled, only a few reaching the enemy, but once there they tore the Angels apart. Power overwhelming... When did this happen? Piece of codex fluff or a novel? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254458-does-anyone-else-not-like-erebus/page/3/#findComment-3201569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrvat Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 The slaughter on Mackan it is from the Chaos Dex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254458-does-anyone-else-not-like-erebus/page/3/#findComment-3201760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostclaw222 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 AD-B will do a good job with Dear Abby. I honestly think he could make me like Dark Angels, if he really wanted to. Erebus I can accept. He's a villain in the classical sense. He's Iago, but his asides sometimes show. Kor Phaeron, though. My happiest Word Bearer moment so far in the Heresy was when Roboute ripped him a new one. And then Dan finally let me down after however many books and let the fether survive.... Dan, you got my hopes up. How could you? :huh: Aaron, please kill Kor Phaeron for me. And make it slow and brutal and ignoble, will ya? Or at least humiliate him to the point I want him to live with the shame for ten thousand years... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254458-does-anyone-else-not-like-erebus/page/3/#findComment-3201896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haniboll Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 AD-B will do a good job with Dear Abby. I honestly think he could make me like Dark Angels, if he really wanted to. Erebus I can accept. He's a villain in the classical sense. He's Iago, but his asides sometimes show. Kor Phaeron, though. My happiest Word Bearer moment so far in the Heresy was when Roboute ripped him a new one. And then Dan finally let me down after however many books and let the fether survive.... Dan, you got my hopes up. How could you? :) Aaron, please kill Kor Phaeron for me. And make it slow and brutal and ignoble, will ya? Or at least humiliate him to the point I want him to live with the shame for ten thousand years... If I recall both Erebus AND Kor Phaeron are in the Dark Apostle series. Neither of those doods is going anywhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254458-does-anyone-else-not-like-erebus/page/3/#findComment-3202575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 If there's one reason for me to hate Erebus, it's that way before BL's HH series got underway I had a Word Bearers army led by a Chaplain Erebus, back from ~2003 to ~2005... Hell, years ago my first username on here WAS Chaplain Erebus, although it's long since been lost (and apparently recycled, lol). Even though the army was sold to a friend a handful of years ago, it bothers me that this previous army's main character was invalidated in such a way... Chaplain Erebus "used to be" (to me anyway) known as 'the bearer of the shroud, the first speaker', who carried as a banner the golden shroud in which Lorgar had been wrapped as a child, was Lorgar's right-arm since before the Primarch's discovery by the Imperium... Oh well, better forget about this once again.. :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254458-does-anyone-else-not-like-erebus/page/3/#findComment-3202830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yhta Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 everybody hate erebus because he is really evil. the primarchs have some reasons and used chaos(or that is what the belive) to his ends. erebus is really a son of chaos. maybe every order around crumble and fall. he just push everything around him to his gods ends. he is a hate holder: a charater who try to hate him so,very,much. and he do that every well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254458-does-anyone-else-not-like-erebus/page/3/#findComment-3203179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Andrew Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 My problem with Erebus is he has essentially no redeeming qualities, he is evil and we don't know why. Every primarch has a tale of why they turned to evil Horus felt abandoned, magnus couldn't let his sons pay for his mistake, Lorgar's life work was rejected, etc. Erebus is like the joker from the Dark Knight he just wants to watch the Galaxy burn. To me it isn't so much one dimensional writing, as there are as no redeeming qualities to give Erebus dimensions other than being a manipulative psychopath. p.s. Take this with a grain of salt as I have never been one to understand the motivations of or root for the bad guys, so some of his "redeeming qualities" that appeal to fans of Chaos may be lost on me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254458-does-anyone-else-not-like-erebus/page/3/#findComment-3204420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Erebus Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 My problem with Erebus is he has essentially no redeeming qualities, he is evil and we don't know why. Every primarch has a tale of why they turned to evil Horus felt abandoned, magnus couldn't let his sons pay for his mistake, Lorgar's life work was rejected, etc. Erebus is like the joker from the Dark Knight he just wants to watch the Galaxy burn. To me it isn't so much one dimensional writing, as there are as no redeeming qualities to give Erebus dimensions other than being a manipulative psychopath. p.s. Take this with a grain of salt as I have never been one to understand the motivations of or root for the bad guys, so some of his "redeeming qualities" that appeal to fans of Chaos may be lost on me. I suppose this is why I would like a short story or something about him. We know him as this cunning and manipulative Word Bearer that helps to point Lorgar towards the worship of the Chaos gods, and then goes on to do the same with Horus too but the problem I have is that we have no real background to Erebus himself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254458-does-anyone-else-not-like-erebus/page/3/#findComment-3204474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_Dew Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 To me they are only there to link to the Dark Apostle stuff and for some one to blame for Horus' and Logar's downfall we cant have the Primarchs going evil on their own it has to be an underling that plans it all...I mean come on they were made with scientific theory, tactics and strategy already in their minds yet probably including misdirection scheming and psychological warfare too and yet they fall for Kor Pherons and Eroberussusususussses little plans that to a primarch must be just small diversions let alone the big E not spotting something amiss with them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254458-does-anyone-else-not-like-erebus/page/3/#findComment-3205376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don the Oiler Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I really hope Erebus and Kor Phaeron get their own stories. So far they're both SO evil just to make the traitor Primarchs seem like victims of circumstance. Heck i always confuse those two because of their one-dimensional evilness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254458-does-anyone-else-not-like-erebus/page/3/#findComment-3205814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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