The DIA! Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Found this on Warseer. thought i'd share it. Cause sharing is caring. http://www.ultinomicon.com/ImmortalEnemies/enemies_i-01.htm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I just skimmed... seems interesting. And as for the artwork, I love his attention to armor variant details. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3091315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Anders Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I love it so far, I'm on page 32. I reconize the chaplain from some where though, probably deviant art. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3091540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoc Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I stumbled across this a few years back the art is pretty good, pity he plays fast and loose with certain aspects of the background though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3091544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Anders Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I don't mind all that much, how long is it? I'm on page 60 with no signs of it stopping. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3091566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 HAHA, not much looser than GW's 'team' :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3091591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoc Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 HAHA, not much looser than GW's 'team' B) I have to call you on that. I'd go so far as to say that he's less background adherent than even Ward (though his work does read less like a 10 year old fanboy's fanfic than Ward's). He plays far looser than the GW design team and unlike them, he doesn't have the claim/right/ability to make legitimate additions to the official setting, all of which is only compounded by the fact that he has said in emails that he really doesn't care whether his comic is background accurate or not. So as I said, nice art, but for me the unfluffiness lets it down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3091604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 As you know everything on fluff, I bow down to your superior being-ness.:P Or rather, if you only compare the difference between RT DA and 2nd Ed DA there is an element of looseness there that is amazing. More recently, each author from Jes to Gav to A-DB and the occasional other have a different and inconsistent approach to the DA, our fluff is very loose. Hence all the arguments/discussion on our great forum here(many of the issues come from the fact that our 'official' resources are spread across 1/4 of a century. The HH novels are helping to tighten things up but are as yet are an incomplete 'resource'. Yours' and other opinion about fluffiness (usually just the details, the main theme seems well established nowadays) is often way different to mine and yet others, so it can't be all that tight or we'd all be in agreement. I'd say his e-mail disclaimer you mention clarifies his 'right' to tell a DA story, although I haven't read those. But I do respect that you hold a different opinion though, that's one of the beauty's of Gee Dubs ooniverse. 2c s Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3091668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoc Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Things like him depicting DA Marines piloting Navy fighters doesn't come down to a difference of opinion/interpretation, its just plain unfluffy for a Marine from any Chapter to be doing that. Its not like Marines had other fliers he could have used - like Thunderhawks, Stormbirds (the as yet undefined Stormhawk and the new Stormtalon had not been introduced at the time). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3091680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I wouldn't call that a reason to complete throw everything out. It's not exactly destroying the universe, it's just a change of pilots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3091696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoc Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I wouldn't call that a reason to complete throw everything out. It's not exactly destroying the universe, it's just a change of pilots. It (amongst other things) is a jarring enough inconsistancy with the lore to spoil the comic for me. As I said earlier, other than the unfluffy aspects, I think the comic is pretty good. But those inconsistancies really spoil it for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3091719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Anders Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Well they were a undermanned force, so maybe they didn't have enough normal pilots. Besides, don't Space Marines have Super Reflexes? And I bet they could make sharper turns while in the air, since they are much tougher than humans. I couldn't imagine trying to dogfight a SM in a fighter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3091807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoc Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Well they were a undermanned force, so maybe they didn't have enough normal pilots. So you put a vaulable resource like a Space Marine in a single seater aircraft (that he's too big to fit in anyway) and put him in a situation where there a good chance he could be blown out of the sky before he gets anywhere near his target? :pinch: :down: The background tells us that if they were undermanned, they'd be much more likely to use a far less valuable and more easily replaced Servitor. The background even routinely shows us Marines utilising Servitors for such non-critical tasks. Besides, don't Space Marines have Super Reflexes? And I bet they could make sharper turns while in the air, since they are much tougher than humans. I couldn't imagine trying to dogfight a SM in a fighter. Boom! Lucky shot, one dead Marine and thousands of hours of genhancement & training gone in a flash. Not only unfluffy, but also a terrible allocation of a valuable and limited resource. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3091814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Anders Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Meh, still looks cool. And they were Probably scouts too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3091823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Nemiel Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Being tall and heavy arent good attributes for a pilot in general...besides it would be really a waste of crucial ressources! For what do we have normal humans? I can imagine a SM organizing Imperial Navy operations...but pilots die like flies! I can recommend Dan Abnetts `Double Eagle´ for a nice 40k-ish flyer novel! Some really epic air battles there...basically my favourite non-SM 40k novel! Reminds me to build my Thunderbolt! :pinch: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3091829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoc Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Meh, still looks cool. And they were Probably scouts too. Irrelevant. Space Marines (even Scouts) piloting Lightnings is unfluffy as all get out. For starters, Marines are too big to even fit in the cockpit, plus as Brother-Chaplain Nemiel pointed out, being tall and heavy aren't desirable qualities in a pilot. Add to that the fact that dogfights (protracted air-to-air combat) are not part of the Space Marine M.O. (even for Fleet based Chapters), they either shatter enemy craft with overwhelming fire or board (boarding torpedos, thundrehawk insertion, teleport assault) the enemy ship destroy, key systems and/or kill key enemy Commanders and then withdraw to finish it off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3091987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odsox Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I remember this. I liked the sketches but I found it incredibly hard to read. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254476-dark-angels-web-comic/#findComment-3092014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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