Pyro X Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 so with the new rumors on the changes to librarians I thought I should have one ready just in case. So that being said, should a librarian on bike be in his blue armor w/ DA green shoulders on a black ravenwing bike, or be all in black with black bike? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solly Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Evening brothers, Id say that, due to the fact the libririans are part of the chapters HQ/upper command echelons rather then actually part of a companies organization, id say they would wear blue armour with a green bike. just my opinion though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I am working on a conversion for mine too, just in case! I plan on painting him in altdorf blue, ravenwing shoulder pad, and black ravenwing bike. just my thought, I'm going on the fact that it seems that all bikes/ landspeeders are owned by the the big RW. just like my DW termie libby is going to have bone accents/pauldrons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro X Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 I had a cool idea on how to make the bike stand out, on the part of the bike near the handle bars, just taking off the skull and putting flames on it like this thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 that's such an awesome idea! way to "rule of cool it"! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Though I don't think he would have RW insignia on his shoulder, I do think it's possible that he would utilize a RW bike when attached to a contingent of the 2nd company. Perhaps his heraldry might have a RW icon if for instance he had once been part of the 2nd company or fought with them and gained some battle honors of some sort, but otherwise I'd go with a standard Librarian model/paint scheme. In the end, it's up to you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Nemiel Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 On the other hand you could make him a DW boney bike?...damn reminds me, i dont have any HQ on bikes^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Edgimus Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I've done all my non ravenwing guys on black bike (chaplain, librarian and techmarine know that ones not legal but hell i wanted one B)) but i like the idea of having bone bikes for inner circle guys, don't think it'd look nice mixed with black RW though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Visually it's cool to have him in blue plate on a black bike AND give him a nifty black shoulderpad with RW logo – even if current rules and chapter org don't allow him full RW benefits nor RW status B). Of course you could go the whole hog and put him in black plate too – but I like the Libbies standing out in their special colour – techies too come to that. It all comes down to personal preference I guess. @ Lord_Edgimus kudos to you for putting a techie on a bike ;). Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoc Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Personally, I go with Librarium colours (thats where the fluff places them and so, for me, thats how they should be depicted) for all of my Librarians - i.e. blue armour, Chapter green shoulder pad with Chapter symbol. For a Librarian on a bike that would mean blue armour with green shoulder pad with Chapter badge, I'd then put him on a custom blue bike with all sorts of Librarian-esque gubbins (scrolls, books, extra cabling, etc.) hanging from various places. YMMV. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Deceit Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 From purely a fluff standpoint all Librarians are blue with their chapter colours on the shoulder. As for the bike, sense he is just borrowing it I would think it would be chapter colours. Of course sense it's your army, paint him whatever colour seems to fit best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepyrous Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I was starting a librarian on bike conversion myself, a short time ago and i´m still not sure if i´ll leave him as he is or keep on sculpting something... Sadly i don´t have the time to paint him in the next period of time but i thought of him as a guy who joined the ravenwing for battle and thus wearing normal blue armor but riding a black bike like his brothers. I usesd the robed legs and torso from the upgrade sprue but sculpted him mark 6 greaves, the big book from the master of ravenwing and so on. (pictures when needed) :lol: But as my previous posters said, in the end it´s up to you how you like him in your force. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinylCut Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I'd like to echo the sentiment of blue armor on a black bike. I hadn't considered shoulder pad, but chapter symbol on green makes the most sense to me. I am very interested in seeing someone's bone bike idea, however. I think this would work even better with an interrogator chaplain. However, when a librarian is called to assist the Ravenwing, would they not need to provide said librarian with a bike? FC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoc Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I would think that bikes for HQs would be drawn from the Armoury, rather than the Company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I've done all my non ravenwing guys on black bike (chaplain, librarian and techmarine know that ones not legal but hell i wanted one :P) but i like the idea of having bone bikes for inner circle guys, don't think it'd look nice mixed with black RW though What a truly amazing idea, yeah....that right there, that's stolen that is! ;) that has sooooo much sexy potential that's like ninja unicorn stripper sexy! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I would think that bikes for HQs would be drawn from the Armoury, rather than the Company. I had thought that too, MD, but upon grabing the dex, I noticed no bikes or landspeeders in the armory. that leads me to believe the RW has a monopoly on them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Just my tuppence worth. I personally would go for: Black RW bike but with a bit of extra deco (scrolls/partchments etc) - as all bikes/speeders belong to the Ravenwing Blue plate Black left hand pauldron with RW badge Usual blue pauldron on right hand side Left hand gripping handlebar, right hand waving staff like a demented Gandalf on Shadowfax charging the Uruk-hai at Helms deep :cry: I think I have just had a vision for my next project - dammit :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3091934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
facmanpob Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 My view is that the RW controls and maintains all of the bikes, so they would issue the bike to the libby....that said, there is no reason why different heraldry or painting couldn't be done prior to issue, so really I think you can paint it whatever way you want :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3092083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haranin Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 rule of cool it- in fact look at our HH novels. The two librarians are never described as having blue armor. After all, why would the first legion paint up some its specialist like smurfs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3092159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I am sure that someone will correct me if I am wrong in this - but jumping in with both feet.... The armour in Chapter colours is pre-Heresy. After the "Council of Nikaea" the armour was recoloured blue to identify them as "Sanctioned" (my choice of word). To avoid the "Smurf" look use a different shade of blue - regal blue comes to mind from the old range. I think I used Enchanted blue on this one but I honestly can't remember (was not UM Blue!) http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/jonbrooks_photo/Dark%20Angels/Librarianf.jpg Anyway - sorry for going tangental on you. :) And I agree - you can paint your plastic soldiers any colour you want :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3092177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Nemiel Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 The armour in Chapter colours is pre-Heresy. After the "Council of Nikaea" the armour was recoloured blue to identify them as "Sanctioned" (my choice of word). You certainly mean AFTER the decree of Nikea was cancelled? Or whatever happened...the council didnt allowed any psyker activity at all, except a VERY few exceptions...malcador and the Big E himself come to mind! The Council decision was cancelled some time after Big E was entrapped in the golden throne? Im sure he would have wanted this to happen, but who knows? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3092182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Yup - thats what I meant :devil: Just trying to give a general time scale as in pre-post Heresy. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3092186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Nemiel Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 No problem, didnt wanted to lecture...its just i recently have thought about this alot...It was a clear order from the Emperor and for very good reasons! :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3092188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Personally, I think the specialists not being in uniform panalopy with the rest of their brother Marines is crap. A specialist badge or something, that I can see but a completely different armor color... :devil: One part of the fluff that's always been dumb. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3092191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Nemiel Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Personally, I think the specialists not being in uniform panalopy with the rest of their brother Marines is crap. A specialist badge or something, that I can see but a completely different armor color... :devil: One part of the fluff that's always been dumb. Not exactly, wondering about Nikea i was reading a WD article concerning SM libis...and there are example pics, a RG termie lib with chapter colours, just left shoulder blue, and different to termie libs, PA one are shown with blue right shoulder/arm and blue helmet! On the other hand blue libs are old school! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254480-ravenwing-librarian/#findComment-3092199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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