WyrdWolf Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 So, I just paid 30 bucks on ebay for some terminators. Turns out they ended up being the old school terminators taht are the size of power armor space marines. Do any of you guys utilize these terminators on the 40mm bases mixed in with the new terminators or what? I feel like they'll seem a little out of place. Opinions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Deceit Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Model them up as units in Artificer armour. Its roughly the same size as power armour but tougher. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3091764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 dude, rock the living crap out of them as termies, those models are sweet. and if your worried about their size, then built up their bases slightly to give them more height. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3091769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Frankly, I run them on their old 25mm bases- AS RUSS INTENDED. Seriously though, the rules state 'put it on the base it came with' wich means old TDA goes on 25mm, and new TDA goes on 40mm. Theres ups and downs to both situations. And while I suppose they could look out of place Ive never had anyone comment other than to say it was cool to see the old guys out for a walk. Though I do keep a spare set of 40mms, just in case my opponent makes a deal of it- as I said it matters little to me and Id rather have a fun game than argue about GWs rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3091776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norskman Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Well, a few of my friends have old termies in their chaos or deathwing or some other army and they use the bases they came with. So, based on that and the fact that it rarely becomes an issue, I have to echo the others and say go with what you've got. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3091789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Are they the old SW models or just standard SM tda? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3091808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Rules that are about to change again in 9 days anyway, too; the rules for bases have been different in every version of the game so far, so you might as well wait just a bit to see what happens. Putting them on the larger bases will help them look right, and if you elevate them just a tad on the base that works, too. I've got several squads of the original metal WGT models, and they aren't all that much smaller than the current plastics, certainly not to the point of being similar to power armour size, so you're definitely exaggerating a bit there. Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3091822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Deceit Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Maybe his terminators shrank in the wash? :pinch: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3091827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I have loads of those old termies and tend to mix and match my squads. I have them on their 25mm base on top of a 40mm. That way they *are* on the base they came with, they are a bit taller to go with the modern termies and everyone has the same base size which gives my squads a more coherent look... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3092343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSpiel Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 As Grey Mage said, it's actually a blessing in disguise to have the option to use either base as it came with the smaller ones (easier to fit and hide, more vulnerable to templates however). I use the old models, just put on new bases. I find they have character and usually get some of the old players all excited like a little giddy school girl. It's your models, do with it as you want; as long as you're not breaking the rules (which you aren't) have fun with the game. If someone makes a big stink about the model base size, educate them on the rules, if they're still making a fuss, don't play with them, it's quite simple. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3092434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaegar Bloodfang Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Compromise put them on a 30mm base! :D -Jaegar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3092562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal105 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 i use 1 old terminator on a 40 mm base but i almost always use him as a wolf lord or a wolfguard battle leader and i figured why wouldn't an HQ have the oldest set of armor and the most ornate in my case as i added some stuff to it to make it look cooler. but all i did was as he was on the smaller base all ready i simply took the short cut of gluing the old base to the 40mm base and he stands just a tall as the rest of them that way Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3092689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I decided to actually pull out a few models for a comparison: As you can see, the new plastic Terminator model does tower over the others, and is quite impressive. The actual model height on the plastic Power Armoured Space Wolf looks to be about the same as on the old metal 2nd Edition-era (early '90s) Terminator, but the head placement on the old metal model is somewhat lower. Anyway, with a simple 40mm base upgrade for your old metal models, you can prevent them from looking too out of place in a "modern" Space Wolves army. That being said, I do very much prefer plastics to metal models, and would recommend that the OP try to get his hands on the "new" WGT sprues (from eBay or a cheap online retailer) and go from there. Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3092858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 If you wanted to update the OOP tda models, I would cut the model above the belt and raise the torso a bit.. maybe the width of 1-2 sheets of plasticard (what is that, 2mm?). Next, I'd lower the shoulders slightly. Obviously there's lots of ways to update them, but this would be the quickest way I think I'd go about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3092895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwulf Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 If you wanted to update the OOP tda models, I would cut the model above the belt and raise the torso a bit.. maybe the width of 1-2 sheets of plasticard (what is that, 2mm?). Next, I'd lower the shoulders slightly. Obviously there's lots of ways to update them, but this would be the quickest way I think I'd go about it. I've been thinking of doing the same type of conversion, myself. By adding a bit of space in the torso, and slightly shifting the shoulders lower it should be fairly easy to making the old terminators a bit closer to the new ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3092945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 My problem is that I hate cutting into OOP models, preferring to keep them as some sort of vintage timecapsule, so I don't know that I'd ever do this myself and instead just get the newer tda models. The current RPTDA on the GW site would be the exception for me, since it's not OOP yet, but still an extremely outdated model anatomically. Also, has anyone else noticed the head size between older tda and the newest? Arjac, for example, has a very proportionate head for TDA compared to say Njal or the current plastic WG which are better than the OOP tda... maybe another 5 years and tda models may actually look like they have a torso and neck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3092950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikken Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I have a dozen or so of the older TDA models , I put them on the 40 mm base , and they don't look out of place , and no one has ever given me a hastle about them . once on a 40 mm base they realy don't look that much small than the plastics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3093240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyGuyy Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I use the old models on 40mm bases with new plastic arms leftover from my WGT pack, just needed shoulder pads and some platform basing and they blend well with the new plastics Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3093837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyrdWolf Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 thanks for all the replies guys. I just got my second set of oop marines in and they all came with 40mm bases, so I'm thinking I might just suck it up and buy 7 or so 40mm bases to put the other terminators on. As far as adding newer plastic terminator arms to them, does it look decently proportional? Because currently most of the terminators I got have power fists, and chainfists, and while i'll probably keep a couple of those, I'm looking more towards power/frost weapon, and lightning claw spam. Speaking of which what would everyone recommend as a set up for a logan wing army? I was thinking lots of cyclones (I currently have 5) throughout the army, with a heavy bit of lightning claws and maybe a TH/SS and a PF or CF in a squad with a wolf priest in terminator armor. And then running a couple of TH/SS termies along with frost weapons in a group with Logan. I have a total of about 30 terminator models at this point, so I shouldn't be lacking in model count. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3094431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeenos Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Hmm still got a WGT with Cyclone Missile in its package. Collectors item baby! 100$ anyone? :thanks: jk jk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3094463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeenos Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Hmm still got a WGT with Cyclone Missile in its package. Collectors item baby! 100$ anyone? :thanks: jk jk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3094464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeenos Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Hmm still got a WGT with Cyclone Missile in its package. Collectors item baby! 100$ anyone? :thanks: jk jk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3094465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyrdWolf Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 bump^...Also, alternate shoulder pads? I've seen a bunch of models that use a sort of half-barrel shaped style that sticks out further horizontally from the shoulders, any idea where to get these? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254498-old-terminator-models/#findComment-3098120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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