Koremu Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 How will this change attitudes to combat squads? They still can't rejoin, and can't split later in the game, but it may see more use because of the transport restriction being lifted. I can already see myself splitting my tactical squads once they've reached their destination. Seeing as though I usually use them to hold a midfield objective while my heavier forces (terminators, honour guard, etc) push up further I may combat squad them out of the rhino, keep my sgt, special weapons and heavy weapon in one and have all bolters in the 2nd. While that may seem a strange way of doing it, I can keep all my key models behind those 5 ablative wounds granting the rear squad not only a cover save but if someone wanted to assault me I would make sure I placed them in a manner that meant they would have to assault both. Therefor they would lose their +1 attack and I would get to overwatch both combat squads at the attackers. I think you may have misunderstand the FAQ or my post. You declare combat squads before you deploy anything. So you can declare combat squads with a Tactical squad, then put both units in the Rhino, but when they get out of the Rhino they will always be two units. If you don't declare it before deployment then you can't split them at all later in the battle. But they are two units, and will cause assaulting squads to lose the bonus attack when together! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254562-6th-edition-tactica-prep/page/2/#findComment-3104040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSnow Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 My understanding from the FAQ is that you combat squad at deployment but you can deploy both halves of said combat squads into the same rhino at deployment. Which then allows me to play my tactic as states above. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254562-6th-edition-tactica-prep/page/2/#findComment-3104046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Fair enough, I thought you were stating that you could deploy the unit whole in a Rhino, and then combat squad them after disembarking them from the Rhino. My bad there! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254562-6th-edition-tactica-prep/page/2/#findComment-3104187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MordentHex Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 ah, simple enough to just charge 1 combat squad at a time and honestly its not like tac squads are all that great in close combat anyways. If i had a 16 strong lets say..berzerker or death company squad I may multi charge your two combat squads and your Rhino, I will lose the extra attack for charging sure, but those three units are probably dead just the same. So i dont think that tactic is really going to work unless i missed something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254562-6th-edition-tactica-prep/page/2/#findComment-3104747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSnow Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I have no doubts that against a group of CC specialists two combat squads would get squished easily but I don't usually rely on tactical marines alone. They're never far from something that can support them in combat. My point is that I can now see little reason for NOT splitting tacticals into combat squads other than for leadership reasons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254562-6th-edition-tactica-prep/page/2/#findComment-3104753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MordentHex Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Ah, ok well having thunderhammer terminators on stand by would be a good thing to have. :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254562-6th-edition-tactica-prep/page/2/#findComment-3104772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I have no doubts that against a group of CC specialists two combat squads would get squished easily but I don't usually rely on tactical marines alone. They're never far from something that can support them in combat. My point is that I can now see little reason for NOT splitting tacticals into combat squads other than for leadership reasons. Well I believe on mission is still KPs, and then secondary objectives include being the first to kill a unit, and combat squads are easy to kill. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254562-6th-edition-tactica-prep/page/2/#findComment-3105101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSnow Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I have no doubts that against a group of CC specialists two combat squads would get squished easily but I don't usually rely on tactical marines alone. They're never far from something that can support them in combat. My point is that I can now see little reason for NOT splitting tacticals into combat squads other than for leadership reasons. Well I believe on mission is still KPs, and then secondary objectives include being the first to kill a unit, and combat squads are easy to kill. Good points. I always over look something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254562-6th-edition-tactica-prep/page/2/#findComment-3105183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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